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A Herron Audio tubed VTSP-3 Pre Amp has replaced the Audio Synthesis Passive Pre (Passion) which has been in my setup for almost 8 years. The Passion beats many active pres I have tried which included Audio Research LS2, LS3b & the ever so esoteric CAT SL1, particularly in the critical mid frequencies. The VTSP-3 comes very close to the sweetness in the Passion's mids but has bettered it in the frequencies extremes.
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    • Herron Audio VTSP-3
    After a long search and many pre amp auditions, the Herron shines on price and performance. Sonically neutral with plenty of micro/macro dynamics.
    • Slim Device Bolder Modified SB3
    Bolder digital mod with a Silver Slipstream Bybee Purifier in digital signal.
    The introduction of the SB3 principle into HiFi is likely the beginning of the traditional CDP or at least it's transport section demise. The convenience of the SB3 where you are able to access your whole music library easily & a sound quality to boot is pure luxury in HiFi Land.
    • Seagate 300GB
    Storage for media files
    • SB 3 Bolder PS Ultimate MKII
    Linear power supply for the SB3. Wayne (Bolder Company) has done an amazing job in tweaking the PS feeding SB3. Instruments & voices sound more palpable & loads of unforced details.
    • Rotel 1070
    Currently decommissioned as a backup to the SB3
    Mod with Audiocom II Clock, BG caps in the power supply rails & fast recovery diode upgrade.
    • DPA Enlightment
    Replaced all caps with BGs. Audiopoints and Symposium Pod Points.
    • Conrad Johnson Premier 350
    Replaces my aging Ayre V-3. The CJ sounds effortless & neutral
    • Focus Audio FS788
    Scan-Speak Revelator 9900 tweeter & 7" Eton woofer with Nomex and Kevlar cone
    • Focus Audio FS788
    Piano Black finish. The build & finish quality is 1st rate & matches its ability to sound amazing in my set-up
    • PS Audio P1000
    Plenty of options to tune the ac feeding equipment.
    Settings; Sine, between 55 & 60Hz[lessthansign]br[greaterthansign}
    • Back Wall treatments Auralex DST-114
    1st reflection points for the back wall
    • Side Reflection treatments Auralex DST-112 & 114
    Effective in capturing the side 1st reflection points
    • HP IPAQ
    Squuezebox/Slimserver WIFI remote control using HP Pocket PC with interactive menus
    • HP Desktop
    The storage device for ripped music (Flac using EAC) from my CD collection. A screen shot showing the main control panel of the Slimserver software which is still a bit buggy & under development by their creators. Music selection can be done by clicking on the images on the left panel or the more conventional way of selecting from a list.
    • Symposium, Argent, Herbie & Shakti Various
    Just some of the tweaks used
    • Various BG, Oyaide & WBT
    Various power tweaks

Comments 16

Owner
Hi Luna,
My 1st impression of the upgraded Herron is it has more weight/body to the music & slightly more transparent as well.
I thought the improvements from VTSP-2 to 3 were not night & day. It could be that the Herron VTSP-2 is already a very good pre-amp.

ipy

Hi,
I also live in sydney and own simular equipments. I have recently up-graded to Herron vtsp-3 too. I also have P-350 power and Thiel 3.6 speaker. I would like to know your point of views in regards to the new herron.

luna

Very nice system, Ipy!
Congratulations on your Herron VTSP-3 upgrade. I couldn't be happier with the improvement myself. Have you tried any NOS tubes. My current favorites are the Siemens 6922's (60's vintage) A nice improvement in "dimensionality" over the EH's with a neutral presentation that compliments the pre-amp's inherent neutrality.

tympani

Owner
Chris,
I have stopped using my HP IPAQ (Telcanto software) to control the SB3 which was slow & unreliable. I was thinking of using tabletpc as well but I guess it will wait until I find time to investigate further.
Thanks for your complement! I do enjoy my system very much & it sounds musical, life size & transparent.

Garry,
I agree that the 788s is a great speaker. She is only starting to "sing" after about 6 months of mostly weekend use.
I have heard both the 688s & 888s at the dealer's & they all share the FA signature sound, good thing. I did find the 688s to have a similar sound to my previous pair of Platinum Solo but perhaps does not go as deep in the LF. The 888s on the other hand has a bigger sound than the 788s but we (including both FA dealers ie: one in Sydney, Oz & the other in NYC, US) all felt its too large for my 15.6' x 10.5' x 8.0' music room.
Thanks for the complement as well & I will post my system pic soon.

Cheers,

ipy

Ipy,

Nice system.

Having both the FocusAudio 688s and the 888s, I know that you must be happy with the 788s. The 788s are very natural sounding with bass depth, speed, and definition to die for. Overall, perhaps the best of the FA Signature line.

Any chance of posting a system picture - posting only those teaser pics of the 788s just isn't cricket :))

Cheers,
Garry

garryh

Was it worth it buy the Bel Canto Software for the IPAQ? Versus using http:\\slimserver:9000/Handheld interface?
I have a tabletpc but sometimes it's just too slow to boot...

Awesome System!
Chris

cytocycle

Owner
System edited: Upgraded to Focus Audio FS788 floorstanding speakers.

ipy

Owner
System edited: After a year or so, I took the "plunge" to replace my aging Ayre V-3 with the CJ Premier 350. The CJ is a pretty amazing amp, sounds effortless, musical & neutral.

ipy

Owner
Hi Jon,

I have heard the VTSP-1A but not in comparison to the VTSP-2 side by side. All I could remember after listening & auditioning the VTSP-1A is that it is THE Pre-Amp I wanted to replace my passive Audio Synthesis Passion.

By the time I got round to deciding on one ie: after 6 months later, the VTSP-2 was already in production & the dealer sold his last VTSP-1A unit.

I can only remember that both VTSP-1A & VTSP-2 has a very similar sonic signature; neutrality & transparent at all frequencies. If you ask Keith (which I did) he will say the 2 is an improvement over the 1A but they sound very similar in many ways.

Before settling for the Herron I also auditioned a CAT SL1 Signature Mk 2 (used) in my system which did not "entice" me as much the Herron or my passive pre, particularly in the mids. The CAT was THE pre-amp until I heard the Herron.

Hope this helps.

ipy

Hi Ipy,
I own a Herron VTSP-1A/166 preamp. I was wondering if you had a chance to audition my preamp as well as the VTSP-2? They are both still in production so I'm imagining there are sonic differences between the two models but I've only ever heard mine, which I love, not the 2. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Jon

jond

Owner
System edited: I took the plunge to treat my room with Auralex bass traps & absorption panels. The improvement is nothing short of a total system upgrade.

Like some other inmates will attest to, the listening room is often overlooked and neglected "component" of the system to be improved upon and I 'm disappointed that it took me this long to realise this.

The treatments gave my room a sense of quietness which I never experienced before and it is now so easy to hear into the music being played. I would say the "naturalness" factor has been increased by many times over. Some would refer the sound I 'm experiencing as being "organic" or life like.

Sure aesthetically, the room is not as appealing with the treatments, at least with my limited room design abilities, but I would trade this for the very pure music I getting out of this.

I would suggest to anyone to take the plunge like me to experiment with room treatments, if they have not done so already. Sure it has not cure all my room acoustics problems (particularly the lower bass which I will tackle next) but the clarity and naturalness of the mid and above frequencies is just too much to ignore.

ipy

Owner
System edited: Upgraded the PS Audio P500 to a P1000. I 'm now able to plug my Ayre amp to the regenerated outputs instead of the filtered ones and the P1000 is registering a usage of 30%+, nice:-). The P1000 added a whole new dimension to the musical spectrum. The P500 was great but the P1000 is perhaps twice as good and it is solidly build. What's next? Bought a bunch of Auralex room treatments.......

ipy

Owner
Hi Sampsa55,
The active Herron pre replacing the AS Passion has expanded the dynamic range of the music played through it. Particularly evident when the volume is increased. When the Passion volume is cranked up, the music is "blurred" whereas the Herron maintains its texture and imagery, if this makes sense.

I 'm geting used to the active slight "noise"/hiss throught the speakers though. No doubt it is not audible at the listening post. The Passion in this regards is almost noiseless unless you put your ear right at the speaker drivers which is not the norm I might add when you are listening to the music :-).

I would regard the midrange "sweetness" of the Passion is hard to beat in my setup but the Herron is pretty darn close to it.

ipy

What kind of changes did it make and where did you use it?

sampsa55

Owner
System edited: Yes, finally took the plunge to go "active" again. I had the Audio Synthesis Passion Passive Pre for at least 8 years. With the Herron VTSP-2 tubed pre, every CD played has extra life and dynamics to it. Sounds close to the AS in the midrange (sweet and transparent) but there is no match to the Herron's HF and LF dynamics. Heard the Herron while auditioning the Pass Lab X350.5 amp at the dealer. Took the Herron home for an audition and was awe on how it transform the system sonically. It's a keeper!! The Ayre V-3 is staying for the moment until the next upgrade.

ipy

Owner
System edited: Currently looking for a replacement for the Ayre V-3. Looking to audition the Pass Lab X350.5 and CJ 350 Premier.

ipy

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