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I've finally reached a point where I'm only going to be doing some very minor changes.

For 2 channel - I have a restored H.H. Scott 222C (PP tube with 18watts/ch) and a John Hogan S.E.T. (300b with 8-10watts/ch) running into my Klipsch speakers with upgraded crossover networks. The H.H. Scott 222C and John Hogan S.E.T. are just amazing and I have been blown away by the sound of tubes.

HT - All Klipsch 5.1 set-up, every Klipsch speaker has it's crossover network upgraded. Centerpiece is the 71" Samsung 1080P DLP. The two sources are HD cable and 1080P HDMI feed from the Denon upconverting DVD player.

The addition of the custom Audio Magic Matrix, custom Audio Magic Matrix PC's, custom BMI Whale Supreme Statement PC, and the Argent Audio Pursang S cabling have taken things to an entirely new level.
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    • Sunfire Theater Grand mkII
    For HT
    • Sunfire Cinema Grand mkII
    For HT
    • Klipsch Chorus mkII custom crossovers
    For 2 channel. Upgraded crossover networks. The caps have been changed from Mylars to polypropelene Kimber Kaps and the resistors have been changed to Mills non-inductive.
    • Klipsch KLF-20 custom crossovers
    For HT. Upgraded crossover networks. The stock Mylar caps have been changed to polypropelene Kimber Kaps and the resistors have been changed to Mills non-inductive.
    • Klipsch KLF-C7 custom crossovers
    For HT. Upgraded crossover networks. This crossover network is an extreme rebuild with every part being upgraded, to include the internal wiring.
    • Klipsch RSW-15
    For HT
    • Argent Audio Pursang S IC
    30" RCA between preamp and amp (L & R main).
    • Synergistic Research Phase 1 Sub with MPC
    Connectivity to the subwoofer.
    • Argent Audio Pursang S Speaker Cable
    8ft and cryo treated with BOB tweak.
    • BMI Whale Supreme Statement custom modified
    BMI "WHALE SUPREME" Statement power cable. (3-ft. length) -Brand New. Serial Number: 847 *Reconfigured design to satisfy customer's taste. Wants more of a wetter, denser sound in vocals. Floating ground design. Different modified plug, different insulators etc. Slow down relay flow in mid to lower mid.
    • Audio Magic Matrix PC's custom modified
    Custom modified by Jerry Ramsey with signal lock technology and quantum physics noise disrupters. Pair: one is used from the dedicated line to the AM Matrix power conditioner and the other is used from the other dedicated line to the power amp.
    • Bybee Copper Ribbon PC
    Connected to my HDTV. This is a Bybee power cord that uses copper ribbons and the ByBee slipstream purifiers on the female end. Per Jack Bybee, this is a low-current PC to be used for source/front-end components or amps below 100watts. It has copper-lead slipstream purifiers and copper ribbon (ribbon conductors were sourced from Analysis Plus) for the power cord itself.
    • Audio Magic Matrix custom modified
    Per Jerry Ramsey: "It has all the latest mods we can do to it, some specially tweaked parts and includes the new passive quantum physics disrupter and quantum physics pulse generator"
    • PS Audio Ultimate Outlet (HC) custom modified with Bybee filters
    Tweak with two large Bybee quantum filters inside.
    • Samsung BD-UP5000
    HD-DVD & Blu-Ray player. Uses the awesome Silicon Optix REON chip for up-scaling and processing.
    • 71inch Samsung 1080P DLP
    HL-S7178W 71" 1080P DLP
    • Ridge Street Audio Z-Der Block
    These are used for power factor correction. I'm using one on my Sunfire preamp and one on my Sunfire amp.

Comments 26

Owner
For my Blu-Ray/HD-DVD player, I soldered in an Audio Magic Pulse Gen ZX. The BD/HD-DVD player didn't have a regular IEC, so that's why I went with the internal mod. It takes me about 10-15min to get the AM Pulse Gen ZX soldered in, so it's very quick and straight forward.

vman71

Thanks Vman
Do you have them plugged into your digital player

musicfile

Owner
Hi Musicfile, I really like the Z-Der Blocks. They have added yet another improvement in the sound department. Clarity, details, air & space, and quiet/black background have all improved just a little more, which is what I was looking for.

vman71

Vman
Can you give me your impressions on th z-der blocks and what they are doing for your system musically

musicfile

Owner
First movie watched after these changes and tweaks was I, Robot on Blu-Ray. Definitely the best my HT has ever looked and sounded! I can't wait to watch more Blu-Ray and HD-DVD movies and concerts. While I can't truly isolate the individual effects of each of the changes and tweaks, the cummulative effect is just amazing!

vman71

Owner
System edited: A few changes to the system, that hopefully take things to a new level. First, the entry-level Denon was replaced with a Sumsung duo Blu-Ray & HD-DVD combo player that uses the outstanding Silicon Optix REON HQV chip-processor. The power cord to the HDTV has been changed out to a Bybee power cord that uses copper ribbons and slipstream purifiers. Next, the Sunfire preamp and Sunfire amp have Ridge Street Audio Z-Der Blocks for power factor correction. Lastly, the Samsung duo player will get the addition of an Audio Magic Pulse Gen ZX (I'll solder that in this weekend). I'm hoping that these tweaks bring a new level of audio and video performance.

vman71

Owner
Hi Ryder,

Congrats! Please post some feedback after you get it connected to your system. If it's anything like when I connected my very custom and highly modified Audio Magic Matrix power conditioner into my system, the audio benefits will be immediate. If you can, another great thing you can do for your system, is to add dedicated circuits (1 minimum and 2 for better results).

There's alot of benefit to be had if you can just get clean, stable power to your system.

vman71

Hi Vman71,

Thank you for your response. I have ordered the unit from Chris of BPT which include the Bybee Quantum Purifier and Oyaide R-1 duplexes upgrades and the cost of these upgrades is higher than the stock unit itself. I just hope the Bybee would live up to its claim, and it is good to note that you have experienced similiar benefits of the Bybee in giving a lower noise floor and blacker background. I have high expectations on this unit as I was using a cheap extension cord previously in hooking up all my components.

ryder

Owner
Hi Ryder,

I bought my PS Audio UO with the Bybee's already inside, so I can't comment on the before and after. What I can tell you is that I'm very happy with it. It does a great job by doing what it does to make the noise floor lower, give the background more blackness, and add a little to the midrange. I actually just bought an older Bybee PC to add to the system.

vman71

Vman71,

I would appreciate if you could let me know if there are any "noticeable" differences when you added Bybee filters to your PS Audio Ultimate outlet. I am contemplating of getting the BPT PPC and the upgrade option of a pair of Bybee Quantum purifiers will be $200 extra among other things.

Your advice is much appreciated.

ryder

Owner
System edited: Updated pictures of the Man Cave.

vman71

Owner
Glenfihi - Thanks! I think it turned out pretty nice. I'm not sure if I would do the completely built-in again. It does create some limitations. However, for my current set-up, it does seem to work nicely.

Timrhu - Thanks also! I have to confess, I did clean up for the pictures. It has become more typical of a "Man Cave" since the initial pictures. I'll post some updated ones later this weeked. The lighting turned out better than I expected in terms flexibility. The ceiling lights are on dimmers and I use those mainly for movies. The wall sconces provide just the right amount of light for 2 channel listening.

Thanks again for the compliments. I'll post some new pics soon.

vman71

That is the neetest "man cave" I've seen. Or did you have the maid tidy up before taking pics?
Seriously though, very nice looking room. I particularly like the lighting. There was a recent post from a member looking for lighting suggestions. If I'd seen your room before that post, I would have linked a reply to your system. Enjoy!

timrhu

Very clean looking room, well thought out. Enjoy.

glenfihi

Owner
System edited: All set and sounding great! I replaced the L/R IC's between the preamp and amp and the L/R speaker cables to Argent Audio Pursang S.

vman71

Owner
Shadorne,

Thanks for (and I appriciate) the comments, suggestions, and compliments. I agree that speaker placement is very important. I just moved my sub to a new position and the bass seems both tighter and deeper. I do plan on completely closing up the gaps where my center channel sits and where the TV is. I'm in the process of making the correct angle pieces to angle my center channel directly at the main listening position. I also have to paint the two lower shelves.

I thought that a 71" TV was going to be too big for my room (main seating is 11ft away). Now that I've watched about 15 or so movies, for me, it would have been a mistake to go any smaller. I'm really happy with the theater experience that I get with this TV.

I'm really happy with the way things look and sound. I'm writing a review right now for a great tweak that I just installed in my CD/DVD player. It's called a Pulse Gen ZX from Audio Magic.

vman71

Great setup. Those alcoves for the speakers/sub might pose some significant bass management issues have you considered adding bass traps in the corners at the back of the alcoves?

I see the fronts of your speakers are brought forward from the edge of the wall- so edge diffraction should not be so much of an issue...nevertheless you might get a better imaging withe the speakers forward a bit more.

Strictly speaking you should close the gap between the frame and the center channel (make sure no gap) - a picture frame sometimes works well - a gap will give you edge diffraction issues and reduce the imaging.

I really like this room and setup...it looks awesome and that 71" screen has me drooling!! I hope my suggestions are taken in the spirit they are offered...just passing on some experiences...suggestions only and no criticism intended on what is one of the more impressive HT setups on A'gon. nice job.

shadorne

Owner
Bigamp,

Thanks. I'm just using a cheap Rocketfish (the one they sell at Best Buy) HDMI cable. It was only $10, I want to learn more about HDMI before spending anymore money on an HDMI cable. It does the job for now, upconverts to 1080P. When the format war is won and prices are reasonable, then I'll step up.

vman71

Congrats on your system and that's a great room! Probably a good idea to hold off on Blu-ray/HD-DVD for now until everything standardizes with HDMI 1.3. Until then, at least blu-ray won't have the full capabilities of its spec (uncompressed hi-rez 7.1 sound, more colors, etc.)

What are you using to upconvert to 1080p?

bigamp

Owner
HT Update:

My HT system has finally arrived! I originally planned for a 60-65" HDTV and ended up with a 71". My seating distance from the HDTV is 12ft, so the 71" is the perfect size. Once I spend some time with the Samsung 1080P DLP and Denon DVD combination, I'll comment more on their performance. I also got a new sub cable (Synergistic Research Phase 1 with MPC).

I've chosen to go only with 1080P upconversion via HDMI and not Blu-Ray/HD-DVD because of price and the format war. When the prices come down to reasonable levels and the format war has ended, then I'll jump in.

It has taken a long time for things to come together, but good things have come because of it. New high res pictures will be up by the end of the weekend.

2 Channel Update:

I regretably sold my beloved Plinius 8100 and have in it's place, a John Hogan 6sn7/76/300b S.E.T. amp. The Plinius was just awesome and perfect for my system. The John Hogan amp was something I couldn't pass up, as there are no more being made by the late John Hogan.

I will one day, own another Plinius integrated amp. The John Hogan S.E.T. amp is incredible. The sound of my 2 channel system is the best it's ever been. I'm pretty confident that the John Hogan S.E.T. amp will be with me for many years to come.

A few minor changes are in the plans:
1. Two new Audio Magic power cords
2. Another pair of IC's for the rear channels of my 5.1

vman71

Owner
Update following a few changes to the 2 channel system. The addition of a pair of two Stealth custom power cords and the Bela Canto DAC2. The two Stealth custom power cords are connected to the CDP and the DAC from the power conditioner. The DAC now sits between the CDP and the integrated amp.

I'll sum up the improvements by saying it's another step closer to the magic of tubes. Dead quite background, improved clarity of details, improved air and separation of vocals and instruments, wider soundstage, and improved (more tube-like) midrange. I'm basing my comment about the improved midrange as compared to the glorious midrange produced with my restored Eico HF-81 integrated tube amp.

I'm very happy with my 2 channel set-up. It sounds dynamically exciting and musical. I'm really enjoying it!

vman71

Owner
System edited: Added a few things to the 2 channel set-up. I added a Bel Canto DAC2 and inserted a pair of custom Stealth power cords. I'm going to let them settle in for a few days and then do some listening.

vman71

Owner
Actually, my room configuration isn't going to work with the Klipsch Chorus II's in the rear. I'm going to have to find a small pair of Klipsch speakers that I can mount on the wall.

So the plan is to eventually have this set up in my bedroom for lite listening:
- EAD CDP
- Eico HF-81
- Klipsch Chorus II's

The Man Cave would then primarily be used for HT.

I think you're right, in that there are compromises when having 2 channel & HT as the same system.

The Eico HF-81 is my first exposure to tubes and it absolutely amazing. Since I will not be getting rid of my Klipsch speakers, I've decided that I'm going to sell my Plinius and get a SET amp.

vman71

I'm with you on tubes for intimate listening (lite listening as you say)

Had a Jolida tube at one time. It gave me the taste of what could be, and I have heard so much about EICO. I would love to have old Klipsch Corus, an original Rega Planet, and tubes in a small den.

I currently have 2 channel music/movies and there are compromises. Have you tought about your EICO and a pair of Klipsh in a intimate setting, and leave you HT seperate?

mjcmt

Owner
Mjcmt,

Thanks. I really hope to have a HDTV by mid year and really start enjoying the HT side of this system. I'm very happy with my Klipsch speakers for 2 channel and HT. The dynamics and volume I can run through the Klipsch are just awesome for HT.

The Eico HF-81 is just incredible with the Klipsch. I cannot believe how great the two can sound together. The Eico HF-81 is my first venture into tubes and it has been a real eye opener. I'm equally amazed at how great something 50+ years old can perform. The Plinius 8100 is for when I really want to rock out. So I switch back and forth between the two, for light listening I will use the Eico.

A little clarity of what amps are driving what speakers:

For 2 channel:
Light listening- Eico HF-81 driving the Klipsch KLF-20's
Louder listening- Plinius 8100 driving the Klipsch KLF-20's

For HT:

Sunfire Cinema Grand II (225 x 5) driving all the Klipsch speakers.

Front: Klipsch KLF-20
Center: Klipsch KLF-C7
Rear: Klipsch Chorus II
Sub: Klipsch RSW-15

I will try and post some additional pictures very soon.

Mike

vman71

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