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I want a system that makes me wan't to relax after coming home from work while listen to my records. It should be able to let me immerse into the music, let me forget about the playback equipment at all and transfer the emotion of music to the highest possible degree... Nothing more, nothing less. I think my actual system fits my needs the best way I can imagine. It's balanced in the best sense rather than having individual strenghts at the expense of others. I can listen to everything from Einstürzende Neubauten to Miles Davis to Stravinski. Over time I was going from Gryphon solid state gear to VAC and Paragon tube electronics (before that it was just HiFI) and finally I encountered Shindo/Auditorium 23, which told me one or more lessons what to expect from a system in regard of enjoyment and true musicality...not HiFi.
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    • Laboratoire Verdier La Nouvelle Platine (A23 version)
    For me it's the ideal of a functional, solid, perfect sounding and gorgeous looking turntable.
    • Auditorium 23 Hommage T1
    The best / most satisfying step up transformer I encountered...ideal for SPU. Of all transformers I had (I had many) only the Kondo SFz was near the A23 Hommage. But the A23 T1 is more organic and coherent than the Kondo which seemed to appeal more through it's very high transparency and detail whereas the T1 is more about emotion without offering less in hifi-terms. I had several cartridges over time (Koetsu, Kiseki, couple of Benz's...) but finally came back to my simple SPU classic.
    • EMT 997 (Auditorium 23 version)
    Equipped with Shindo inner cabling. It replaced my beloved SME 3012R (which I still keep). It sounds significant more solid with music evolving from a darker backround. Together with the Hommage T1 transformer it also helped me to rediscover my simple SPU classic as a contiouns source of enjoyment...more than most other stuff I owned. I had different tonearms from Kuzma, Schröder, Audiocraft, SME, AT, Morch but the combination EMT + SPU is one of my favourite.
    • Ortofon SPU A
    It's the old 2 Ohm version not the actual reissue wich is different from the previeous A. I prefer this "simple" cartridge over all the Benz, Koetsu, Shelter, Kiseki...I had, because the SPU A sounds just right to me, emotion, energy, music with flesh and bones, yet delicate...the only thing is, you have to have a first class MC transformer to get the full magic with the SPU. Even on top class phonostages (my old Gryphon Orestes ltd.) it just sounds good, but not outstanding like on the A23 T1 transformer for instance.
    • Ortofon SPU A Reference
    The SPU Reference A has a Replicant 100 diamond tip in contrast to the SPU A classics conical tip. Also it runs with "just" 3g tracking force. All Hifi parameters are better than on the simple classic A but also musicality is somehow better. It does not sound as charming and dense in the mids compared to the classic but sounds more natural and clear. I also still have a classic A, therefore I can choose between the two depending on mood.
    • Shindo Laboratory Monbrison
    The Monbrison replaced my former Shindo Mazeris Bellevus, which has been an older model with output transformers. It took not even 5 min for the Monbrison to feel at home in my system. It is quite a step from the fantastic Mazeris Bellevus. My Monbrison is the old chassis version with output transformers, Arome MC step up transformers and full loaded with NOS parts...quite different from the actual Monbrison. A good set of tubes makes this great preamp even a little better...I use Genalex 6x4 rectifier, Mullard square getter ECC82 and others by Siemens / Mullard. I don't need "more" preamp.
    • Shindo Laboratory Palmer 300B
    Classic Shindo 300B SET design with Mullard CV181, CV593 and Cetron 300B. No oversized mega transformers, millions of capacitors here...It is stunning what a couple of highly musical watts can do, if used with the right speaker. The sound is just perfect with the Valencias. In contrast to it's small physics and modest power rating, these amps have enough slam to reproduce even modern music without any noticeable compromises...at least with an super easy to drive speaker like the Valencias.
    • Shindo Laboratory Pavillon Rouge
    New family member...really exciting new amps. I'm "tasting" the differences to the Palmer 300B actually.
    • Altec Lansing 846b
    I was looking for a SET friendly loudspeaker and what I found was the Altec Valencia 846B sold from a thrift store. After cleaning and restoration they look and sound unbelievable good. I replaced the inner cabling with A23/Shindo wire and changed the org. caps, as recommend by Mr. Aschenbrenner of Auditorium 23. After listening a while with the Velencias it's rather hard to be satisfied with convential modern loudspeakers. The strenght of the Valencias is their top to bottom coherency, roomfilling presentation with nearly perfect detachment of music from the speakers itself, believable dynamics as well as their sense of flow and rythm. It's just a different energy in the room compared to moderately sized modern speaker with comparatively small and inefficient drivers. The slightly limited bandwith at both frequency extremes is only a weakness for people who tend to like bright and brash solid state systems and even if they don't go too far down into very low frequencies, the bass quality is the best I've heard yet from a 2- or more way system. Theres nothing I miss and nothing I wish to be different, while listening to music via the Valencias..very satisfying.
    • Lignolab - Norbert Gütte Die Bank
    It is hard to convey what difference a rack like the suspended Lignolab can make and how the whole performance of an already very good performing system can benefit, if you never experienced it with your own ears. Besides the acoustical benefits any tendency of my tonarm to jump out of the record groove if someone is walking nearby the turntable is gone completely. Now you can jump on the old wooden floor next to the turntable and the Platine Verdier is just playing on. Oh yes, the Lignolab looks gorgeous too.
    • Auditorium 23 speaker cable
    When I first tried this speaker cable on loan I was not immediately knocked over by spectacular bass, highest highs etc...it just made me focus on the right/important things in the music. After going back to my old (not inexpensive) cable, something was really missing. I bought 2x6m of Auditorim 23 green speaker cable then.
    • Auditorium 23 Interconnect
    All interconnects I use are from Auditorium 23.
    • Okki Nokki RCM
    The Okki Nokki replaced my old Nitty Gritty Recordmaster which did a good job in all the years. The ON is significantly more comfortable to use and also quiter and better looking, especially in white, with acrylic cover. The ON offers a lot for the money and is very solid (made in Germany too).

Comments 44

Gorgeous system. Love the addition of good tea.

subterranean6

XR, did you have a chance to compare your Shindos monos with the Corton Charlemagne el34 ? Because your models are unfortunately discontinued and on Shindo Labs website there are onlye some power models available now :(

rafaelbraga

Hi Ron, any news in your system?

breezer

I've not heard of the pavillion rouge before. What tube complement do they use? I'm running the Cortese F2a right now but sometimes feel like I might be running out of steam with my current speakers (DeVore Nines).

jcote

Owner
I would have never believed that a PP amp can beat my beloved Shindo Palmer 300B, not just in terms of better control, dynamics but surptisingly also in terms of musicality and emotional connection to music.

Therefore I sold my Shindo Palmer 300B and listen happily with the Pavillon Rouge PP amps.

xronx

Owner
Dear Stephen,

since I bought the Valencias in not so good condition, I had to replace the compression driver diaphragm, remagnetised the drivers and also got a pair of fresh refurbished (by GPA) 416A drivers (the old ones had been optically ok, but sounded somewhat lame).

I also cleaned the L-Pad's (that alone did a lot) and change the caps with paper in oil caps. The coils and circuit is original, I only changed the cabels to ones I got from Auditorium 23.

Best regards

Ron

xronx

Dear Ron,

yes indeed - I have learned the hard way that more expensive does not equal better. I tried to "upgrade" my altecs with some much more expensive speakers and was very disappointed.

My source is Garrard 301/Thomas Schick/Denon 103 - I am now trying to follow the Shindo/ A23 philosophy - keep it simple and the music will flow!

I am interested in your crossovers - are they totally new or did you just re-cap the altec ones?

Kind Regards,
Stephen

audiokiwi

Owner
System edited: added a Ortofon SPU Reference A

xronx

Owner
Dear Audiokiwi,

thanks for the flowers :) I have to give many thanks to my friend Hartmut (a long term Shindo/A23 afficionado) and Mr. Aschenbrenner of Auditorium 23 for their many advises. Without them my system might have looked totally different.

An Altec A7 with the Aurieges, a good tube power amp and a decent source (vinyl :)) should give more musicality than most highest-end mega buck systems.

I just came back from the High-End Show in Munich this weekend and can tell you that most systems (even the ones with price tags comparable to an big size appartement in on of the bigger cities on this planet) does sound more musical engaging than a medium quality car hifi system.

The few exceptions have been the A23 room with a big Klangfilm Euronor system, the Silbatone room with large Western Electric horns and a system from the swiss company Swissonor, also in the vein of historic speakers and tube amps.

Ron

xronx

Of all the thousands and thousands of systems on the internet, it is this one which engenders in me the most envy. Just so well thought out - and beautiful. I have Altec A7's and have just bought a Shindo Aurieges - so I have a very small glimpse of the magic these components can have...

audiokiwi

Nice, love vinyl keep up the good work.
I read about that record cleaning machine
may treat myself to one this year.

billj

Owner
Dear Mica,

sure...NWW sometimes, Coil (one of my top 20 bands) often is playing here, along with other stuff out of this corner :)

Best regards

Ron

xronx

Nice setup. It is also refreshing to see that someone else on this forum likes something other than classical or diana krall. I think this is the first time that I have seen einsturzende neubauten mentioned on this forum. Spinning any coil or nurse with wound on the fantastic setup of yours??

micah79

Outstanding system.

pdreher

Owner
System edited: New family members (amps)...see pic.

xronx

Owner
System edited: After beeing satisfied for several years with a Nitty Gritty record cleaning machine I bought a Okki Nokki cause I wanted to have a bit more comfort.

xronx

Owner
Dear Glenfihi,

thanks for your comment...btw. the record storage systeme is IKEA made (Expedit)... ;)

Ron

xronx

Wow, talk about a blast from the past, Altec speakers, great. Nice record storage as well. Happy listening.

glenfihi

Hi Xronx,
You have a very nice system. It must sound devine and quite natural.

charles1dad

Owner
System edited: Added some pics...

xronx

One comment. To me your sytem stand seems very functional and attractrive vs throwing the equipment all around like many here do. Nice job

vernneal

Owner
For the interested...old speakers are damped with glass wool in most cases. Since it is known that especially old glas wool has the potential to harm your health/lungs, I wanted to replace the old glass wool in the Valencias with something less dangerous.

After searching the wwww I decided to go for sheep wool and/or felt mats. Unfortunately changing the inner damping means also to change the speakers sound by a large degree.

Therefore I had to struggle a couple of weeks (almost months) now to obtain the same satisfying sound as before. I had to start 3 times from scratch because some solutions (shep wool only and felt only ) dindt worked at all.

I finally ended up with a mixtures of both and had to fine tune the right amount of both damping materials as well as the placement in the speakers by endless hours of trying and hearing (not much fun in the beginning).

But fortunately now the speakers are as good as before and have no glass wool fibres emitted in the room air.

xronx

Hi Ron, i just see that astonishing Bank, even with the feet! Congratulation! I think, it is time for a second visit! :-)

breezer

Very nice! that Lignolab rack and lighting looks great. Love that Joy Division poster also.

mikeyc8

Owner
System edited: I was considering it quite a while and now I added the Lignolab / Norbert Gütte rack (in Germany it's called "Die Bank") to my system. Wow...it leaves a remarkable fingerprint in the systems sound...increased effortlessness and depth of "tone".

xronx

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