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Long story. Started back in the 80s with a Technics SLB2, Rotel RA840 anp and KEF Coda 3 speakers. My first real hi-fi bought with my own money. - fun
Dual 501/AT95 - fun in a splish splashy way
Thorens TD318/Miltec Aurora HOMC- not much fun - dull, rolled off and plodding - what do you expect with a hunk of MDF and leaf springs?
Linn LP12/K9 with Cambridge Audio integrated - better but not great.
Added a Cyrus 2 which was dreadful - brash and dry, sibilant and colored.
Added a Audiolab 8000C/P - no fun - dull and plodding.
Added Monitor Audio 352 speakers - lots of fun - lovely woody sound - captured the emotion in the music.
Swapped the preamp for a first model Croft Micro - utterly transformed. Replaced all resistors with Holcos and doubled up power supply and changed the ECC83s to Telefunkens. Replaced ECC82 with a Brimar CV5042 black plate.
Added a Croft Series 4 Power Amp - better.. until...
I added a Michaelson and Austin TVA1 with MO/GEC KT88s which blew the Series 4 away.
Added a Decca Super Gold - great when it was in the mood but the Ittok combo didn't work.
Added Ortofon X3 Turbo - better but lost something. At least it played without jumping.
Added bronze Quad ESL 57 - removed many veils but creaked and vibrated.
Added Leak Stereo 20 - I rebuilt this lovely but under-powered amp with new caps and Holco resistors.
Added Spendor SP2s - put some veils back up but at least I could listen without torment.
TVA blew up a KT88 - replaced precious MOs with a quad of GE 6550 - better bass, lost the magic midband. 
Also had a Rek-o-kut, Thorens 160, and cream Garrard 301 with a Grace 707.
Packed it all away for 10 years.
Added a $700 Garrard 401 to a $400 birch ply plinth/Jelco 750L arm and the old the Decca that I was going to throw away. - WTH? Amazing sound.
Added new Croft Micro 25 - swapped JJs for the Telefunkens that were in the old Croft - better - and then GE JG5751 black plates - way better. The sound came forward and the soundstage flattened a little but... the timbre/detail/color and blackness improved dramatically and the speakers disappeared.
TVA went dead. It's up on blocks waiting for a late night attempt to fix it... but the HT is dangerous on this beast. If anyone wants it, contact me.
Added rebuilt EICO HF35s - better - wonderful amps - fabulous.
Added black Quad ESL57s - added home-made 20" solid oak stands - no vibrations, no weirdness - just fantastic. Matching serial #s. 
I use $12 Belkin Gold interconnects (preferred to a number of $200-$500 cables) and 12 gauge UP-OCC in Teflon for speaker wire.
Garrard has rock solid stability, image, rhythm, foot tapping, delicacy - bells shimmer, speed - you can see the snares shake on the drum and see the color of the different notes.

UPDATE 10/13 - Got a John Wright Paratrace re-tip and the Decca is transformed. See post below 10/28/2013.

Replaced Croft Micro 25 phono preamp with the R version. While not a huge difference, there is a lower noise floor, better bass, more tonal color and a snapping into focus of the imaging. If you are running these amps with stock JJ tubes, you are not hearing them at their potential.

Update 12/2017 - Added Audio Grail Sable Garrard 401 and Jim Campbell PA slate plinth. Replaced oak table with metal and maple stand. See pics. AudioSilente idler - just do it - best $100 spent. Transformed. 

Update 5/18 - Upgraded Jelco 750 to TK-850L 12inch with Ammonite collar. Essential.

Update 10/18 - Upgraded the aluminum Audiosilente idler to the twice-as-heavy stainless steel Artisan Fidelity idler. Just do it. New heights. You will thank me.

Update 12/21/18 - Replaced platter with Classic Turntable Company 20mm oversized aluminum platter. Excellent improvement to bass - gone is the plummy boom, now tight and colorful. Increased focus all round and better speed stability is noticeable. 6/2021: Replaced platter with newer slightly heavier one fron PAC.

Update 6/19 - Replaced metal rack with 4 concrete blocks. I've never been happy with the metal stand. I had it lying around and it was better than the old oak table. The concrete is a huge improvement in sound quality. Huge soundstage, improved stability of images, tighter and more tuneful bass. 

Update 7/19 - Added JW rebuilt (with extended line contact) Garrott Bros Decca Gold Microscanner

Update 8/19 Added SPH grease bearing to 401 - significant improvement. Blackness, stability and excellent highs.

Update 12/19 Croft 25R. Replaced electrolytic reservoir cap with Clarity TC film cap and phono loading and stopping resistors with Vishay Z foil naked bulk foil resistors. Excellent upgrade. Cleaner, more transparent with voices sounding more human.

Updated 6/2/20 - Added SPH 12" carbon fiber tonearm to collection. Fine sounding. More relaxed and spacious than Jelco 850 but not as dynamic or detailed.

Updated 9/20 - Added Nobsound springs to turntables and amps. See my 'Springs Under Tuntable' post/thread. Improved 3D layering, blackness, speed and transparency.

Updated 9/20 - Added 65" 4K TV.

Updated 3/21 - Modified Croft phono preamp power supply to use tube rectified and regulated vintage Lambda 25 unit. 7851a power tubes. Adds a tube-like dimensionality. 

Updated 10/21 - Added Croft RIAA-RS (single box version from @tomic601) so I can switch between arms without unplugging. Replaced 4 x bulk foil resistors on phono input.

Updated 2/23 - Added Jelco 850L to System 2 401, added Decca Maroon with new line contact tip. Added SPH bearing to 401. Installed springs under speakers and sub.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 40’ × 25’  X large
Ceiling: 8’


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    • AudioGrail Garrard 401
    Refurbished Audio Grail Sable Early Twin-spark 401 in 22"x17"x2" Jim Campbell Pennsylvania slate plinth. Precision Audio Components oversize aluminum platter, Artisan Fidelity stainless steel idler, SPH Aluminum/POM grease bearing. Feet are 3 x Nobsound springs on slate pods.
    • Jelco TK-850L 12" tonearm
    12" with Ammonite collar.
    • Jelco TK-850S 9" tonearm
    Added this for second cartridge.
    • SPH Carbon Fiber 12" tonearm
    SPH 12" tonearm
    • Decca London Gold Garrott Brothers "Microscanner" Decapod
    Refurbished by John Wright with line contact stylus.
    • Decca London Super Gold with Paratrace and Decapod
    I almost tossed this away once. Rebuilt twice by John Wright. Added Decapod in 2019
    • Decca Grey Export Garrott Brothers
    Grey Export Garrett Brothers line contact with a side-screw Decapod-like mounting. Checked and cleaned by John Wright.
    • Audio Technica VM750SH
    Bought this to see what a good economy MM sounded like.
    • Croft RIAA-RS
    Single chassis version. Select tubes. Bulk foil phono resistors. Thanks @tomic601
    • Lambda Model 25
    Tube regulated power supply with original PIO caps, RCA 5693 Red driver, Tung sol 7581A power tubes and GZ34 rectifier.
    • Croft Micro 25R
    3x Shuguang Custom 12AX7 LS in phono and buffer stage. 2x Telefunken ECC83 smooth plates in regulator. Vishay naked Z-foil resistors, Clarity TC reservoir cap., BLE Design OFC power cable.
    • EICO HF-35 monoblocs by Stu Remmington
    Rebuilt by Stu Remmington with 3 chokes/PIO caps/triode stage running Shuguang Black Treasure 12AX7LS and new Tung Sol 7581A which are fantastic. Psvane 6SN7 globes are illuminating.
    • Quad ESL 57
    Original pair of black Quad ESL 57. Consecutive #s. I have them on home-made 18" stands. I'm running them with the grills off.
    • System 2 - Garrard 401 birch ply plinth 401
    AudioGrail 401 in 5 sheets of 22 layer birch ply with 1/3" solid walnut top. 1/2" solid maple sides. SPH bearing, Audiosilente idler. 3 Nobsound feet.
    • Jelco TK850L
    On my second 401.
    12" tonearm
    • Decca London Gold
    Renovated Grey Export to Gold. New gold case, overhaul, and new line contact stylus.
    • Decca London Maroon
    New line contact stylus.
    • Ortofon OM-78
    Mono 78 65ųm spherical
    • Croft Acoustics Micro 25
    Telefunken ECC83 and Grant Fidelity Shuguang 12AX7LS.
    • Eico HF-35 monoblocs
    Recapped with 7581A power tubes, Mullard 10M /Bugle-Boy EF86, GE 6SN7.
    • Spendor SP2/2
    Still going strong after over 30 years on my second rig.
    • REL Acoustics S3 MKII SHO
    Impressive sub. Blows away previous Strata 3.
    • Clear Day solid silver Speaker Cables
    System 2
    • Neotech UP-OCC (DIY) Speaker Cables
    24" of 14 gauge cables - monoblocs under each speaker.

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I have never heard vinyl sound this good before. Surfaces are so quiet, the music seems to just leap into the room. I never knew this could happen, but I'm so glad it did!
Regards,
Dan

islandmandan

Sorry to hear about you friend Mr. Morech passed away. We've got to love life, each day is precious. I'm pleased though, I just learned my new SPH bearing upgrade will be here tomorrow, so I've gotmy work cut out for me tomorrow.

Take care, my friend,
Dan

islandmandan

Hey no,,but I mean yes,

Well, I ordered a pivot bearing from SPH, so it won't be long before I'll have the unenvioble task of tearing my turntable apart, most likely for the last time

islandmandan

Noromance (me neither, way too old to worry about romance, so it's not a problem). Looking at your 401's, I'm currently very pleased with how my analog front end sounds right now, but you've got me thinking, and wondering, how much benefit would there be in upgrading the center bearing pivot.

I'm going from here to SPH's website, and look things over again, and maybe, who knows?
Love looking at your system, as always, regards,
Dan

islandmandan

hi Brian, have you heard from the SPH Bearing man lately? He's supposed to contact me when he's ready to make another batch. Been a long time now, though.

Thanks,
Dan

islandmandan

Hello Noromance,

I searched online regarding the SPH bearing, and can't find any info about where, or how, to buy one. Do you have that information?

Thanks,
Dan

islandmandan

Hello Noromance,

I had to look to see if I had posted to your thread (I had, some time ago). It seems things have improved a great deal for you (by the way, I enjoyed the audio timeline you laid out).

I see you had a Paratrace stylus put on your Decca. I had ESCCO mod my Zu Denon 103R with a white sapphire cantilever and Paratrace stylus, and oh, my! 

My Garrard 401 is performing beautifully, with the afore-mentioned cartridge and Dynavector 501 arm. I've also completely redone the exterior on the plinth, with some inlay. Really enjoying it these days.

I'm glad to see how much you're enjoying your system, it's nice that it's not all off-the-shelf stuff, it's stuff you had to take time to learn about, and work yourself up to. Very well done.

Regards,
Dan

islandmandan

Hello Noromance,

I finally got around to tearing down my 401, and checking the spindle bearing. To my dismay, I found an indentation worn on the spindle bearing surface. So, the heavy mat and brass weight is too much load for the "Exact" bearing with its small ball bearing, even with it being phosphor bronze.

I gingerly polished the end of the spindle, not enough to remove the dimple, but enough to clean it up a bit. I then polished the original dome bearing, and reinstalled that.

I am in hope of finding an OEM thrust pad somewhere, but so far, no luck. With the old bearing in place, I noticed no ill effects from the flat spot on the thrust pad.

The earlier thrust pads were flat, so it makes sense that a flat worn into the pad may not be such a bad thing, but there would be less drag with a new domed thrust pad.

I may yet opt for a new aftermarket spindle bearing. I've been looking at the Kesto replacement spindle/bearing, but I need to get some feedback from those that have used one in their 301/401.

Regards,
Dan

islandmandan

I checked into the Kokomo Ceramic bearing, and reports were not so good. Too much wear on the spindle bearing surface. So yes, I do use the brass bearing.

As soon as I get caught up around here, I'll do my bearing inspection, and report back my findings.

Regards,
Dan

islandmandan

Hello Noromannce,

Like you, I don't spend money just to spend money. I looked at getting some of the best 300B's currently available, but I just couldn't justify the expense.

As a comprimise, I ordered a pair of Chinese mesh-plates from Upscale Audio, which turned out to be a big step up from EH 300B's.

The question of greater bearing wear, due to the copper mat and heavy center weight, is something I'm trying to keep tabs on. A few months ago, I tore the table down, and inspected the bottom of the spindle, and bearing.

I am using an after-market bearing, which uses a smaller, but perhaps softer, round bearing. There was a shiny spot on the bottom of the spindle, which is to be expected. Not bad enough to be a concern, but I need to do another inspection to be certain.

I did turn the bearing over to a fresh side, it may be ready for a new one now, as I said, depends on what I find on my next inspection. I'll let you know.

I've looked at alternatives for spindle/bearing, such as Stefano Bertoncello's, but I found the cost prohibitive.

Regards, and enjoy,
Dan

islandmandan

Hello Noromance,

Since my last post, I sent my SET 300B for factory upgrades, and I put NOS tubes in (w/the exception of some nice Chinese Mesh Plates), it has proven to have great synergy with my Tannoys.

My Zu Denon 103R returned from ESCCO, where it had a saphire cantilever and Paratrace stylus mod. This has made a great leap in performance, as you noted in your Decca.

You are now exacting great performance from your 401, and the rest of your system, and that is something to celebrate.

Here's to continued enjoyment,

Regards,
Dan

islandmandan

Brian,

The HF 35's got too high for me, so I didn't get them. I did, however, get a 300B SET amp, almost by default, as I only put one bid on it. It'll be here Thursday, I've been wanting to listen to my Tannoys with 300B SET powering them, so Im going to get my chance soon.

Best regards,
Dan

islandmandan

Yes, always something to do, keeps things interesting. After seeing your system, I've bid on some HF 35's on Ebay. They need quite a bit of work, but they would keep me busy for quite some time.

What part of the world are you in? (I'm in NW Washington State, USA).

Best regards,
Dan

islandmandan

Great system! In my case, a DIY 401 restoration beat the pants off a VPI Scout Signature.

You might consider Tannoy, in my large 16' X 34' room (cathedral ceilings), custom built HPD 315 (12" Dual Concentric, ca 1975) do an excellent job there. 15" might even work better for you, but 12"s work quite well in my situation.

I think they might be a better match for your Eicos, too.

Regards, and enjoy,
Dan

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