Description

It took 15 years of search to build this wonderful system. The system is based on YBA electronics and Devore Fidelity speakers. Both brands put the music first.

I first came across the supremely musical YBA amps and CD players around 5 years ago.

It took a lot longer to find that special brand of speakers that can play music in the most natural way.

After listening to the Devore Nines I knew that the quest for that magical speaker had ended and am a very happy man...enjoying music like never before. It feels like the musicians are in the room.

The system is all about music - a music lover's system. Music is presented in a very natural way that makes writing about it very difficult. It has the same presentation and emotional richness of live concerts. To my surprise, I find that switching from home to live music and back to home a non-event.

The music is right there in the room in all its glory with natural speed, detail, refinement, fluidity, effortless dynamics, huge soundstage and full of emotional communication!

This is a system that can play all types of music well but is exceptional with Jazz and vocals. I listen to Classical, Jazz, Reggae, Latin, Pop etc and am amazed at the versatility. Most systems I have heard, if not all, even some costing up to $200,000, have been very selective as to the type of music.

Amplifier

When in 2003 I discovered YBA and bought the YBA Passion Integre, I thought that this is the last amp I'll ever buy. I am still raving about it.

The CD player

I feel the same about the YBA Passion CD 1000 as I feel about the amplifier. It may also be the last CD player I'll ever buy.

It is good enough to make switching from vinyl to CD not an issue at all.

Hifi Choice reviewed the older equivalent YBA CD1a (2000) and accurately describes the character of the YBA:

"The CD1a is not an obvious-sounding player. It doesn't hit you with incisive detail or cataclysmic dynamics, neither does it impose an overt character on the music it plays. It simply plays, and you, the listener, will fall in love.

Its performance is magnificently airy and transparent, endowed with a 'listen-through' quality that sparks instant admiration; what's more, like a good bottle of claret, your appreciation can only grow as time slips by. Music flows from its outputs with free-breathing ease, giving you what seems to be the full breadth of the composer's vision, the broad brush strokes as well as the fine detail within."

Full review is at: http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/archive/perl/292_printreview.htm

Speakers

The quest for a great pair of speakers ended with the DEVORE FIDELITY NINES. It took nine long painful years.

They look like ordinary boxes but play music in such an extraordinary way that calling them loudspeakers does them injustice. They have so little in common with their competitors it is shocking. No wonder so many reviewers bought them.

The Nines are extremely transparent, super fast, very detailed, refined, clean - not a hint of grain, super coherent and evenly balanced (YBA needs very fast speakers to shine). The bass is clean, fast and goes low enough to fill a large room. Imaging is frighteningly good. Soundstage is huge, with the music coming from a stage of 4 meters wide by 2 meters tall and 3 meters deep. The speakers deliver the goods with all kinds of music, whether its POP, CLASSICAL, JAZZ or REGGAE.

http://www.devorefidelity.com/reviews.html

A note on searching for great speakers

The process of finding great speakers was the most difficult. The list of speakers I listened is long. The Devore Nines were head and shoulders superior to all the speakers I list below even though a lot of the speakers were very good. I place the speakers in my order of preference:

Class A

1. Devore Fidelity Nines - Best by far

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Class B

2. JM Lab Micro Utopia Be and Diva Be. Both were fantastic speakers but not as good as the Devores. They are the best of the rest and the alternative speakers if it wasn't for the Nines. They have a slightly shiny / glassy sound in the midrange and they are not nearly as fast as the Nines.

3. Devore Fidelity Super 8 (amazing but too small for the room)

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Class C

4. Vienna Acoustics Bach (very musical and replaced by the Nines)

5. Harbeth Monitor 30 (lovely midrange but non-punchy bass)

6. Harbeth Compact7-ES3 (lovely midrange but uneven response)

7. Vienna Acoustics Beethoven (nice speakers but a bit too serious and uninvolving)

8. Thiel CS 2.4 (very good but the tweeter was screaming a bit)

9. Reference 3A MM De Capo (nice but quite coloured)

10. Proac Response 2.5 (musical but VERY SLOW)

11. Wilson Benesch Arc (musical but in the end a bit tiring)

12. Sonus Fabers, Martin Logans, Living Voice, B&Ws and many many more

Turntable / Cartridge

The lovely Rega P3 plays music. I made some modifications and use a granite slab on a bicycle tyre as a base. It improves the sound a lot.

The Dynavector 10x5 cartridge is dynamic and detailed and great value for money.

Cables

I selected cables to fine-tune the system and ensure that the sound is as natural as possible. The YBA / Devore Fidelity combination is so strong that most competent cable combinations sound great - they just alter the overall presentation of the system.

Your questions / comments are welcome.
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Components Toggle details

    • Devore Fidelity Nines Speakers
    2.5-way floorstanding speakers
    • YBA Passion Integre Amp 100W
    with internal MM. 100w solid state amp (now called Passion 300 integre)
    • YBA Passion CD 1000
    essentially a CD1 Sigma with a different fascia
    • Rega P3 Turntable
    sitting on a granite base, which is decoupled from the main stand through a small bicycle tyre.
    • Rega RB-300 Tonearm
    rewired with Rega's best cable.
    • Dynavector 10X5 Cartridge
    • YBA Diamond Power Cord
    two of them used for the CD player
    • YBA Diamond (RCA) Interconnect
    • YBA Diamond Speaker Cables
    single-wired
    • Lovan Classic

Comments 36

Hi Defstathiou,

I'm glad to hear you are enjoying your YBA passion integre. I own one too and it's just simple musical bliss. There are a number of tweaks that will bring this integre to a much higher level.

First, I would recommend using both the separate high and low outputs that the YBA offers. This will bring out better transients and improve your micro/macro dynamics to a certain degree. All you need is a second set of speaker cables, in essence almost like true bi-amping ... luckily this is possible with this integre and offers some great advantages.

Secondly, I would highly recommend the symposium series 2+ rollerblocks (doublestacked if possible) instead of the ceramic feet used. Some critics say YBA sounds polite. Not so with the rollerblocks. Audition them if you can, they will never leave your system, this much I guarantee! They make a BIG difference. And if you can, get a granite block under the rollerblocks, it will tighten the lowend even further.

Lastly, consider upgrading the powercord to a Revelation Audio Labs PRECEPT or Shunyata Anaconda, either of these 2 has worked very well with this amp and were worth the investment. With them I have found that I do not need the large YBA Passion 1000 monos unless I had a large room which I don't.

One last thing, the preamp of this integre is its weak link. The amp is first class, but you need an Audio Aero cd player with a inbuilt preamp to find that out.

amperidian

Try a pair of Lowther floor standing speakers; they might work fabulously with the mid powered YBA amp.

I am considering acquiring a YBA CD3 or Accuphase DP-80 transport as a redbook transport. Can anyone comment on the ten year old CD3 models? My old counterpoint finally bit the dust and I need to get a replacement and am ready to spend some money this time (the counterpoint was 100 bux used and ran for two years...).

c123666

It is interesting to me how you guys mention YBA needing fast speakers - I feel exactly the same way about McIntosh. I guess they both need to be able to shine in full glory. I am anxious to try YBA on my speakers now!

aball

Owner
Thanks Mike and Arthur, your comments are really helpful. I agree with Mike that YBA benefits from very fast speakers.

After listening to the Proac Response 2.5, I finally appreciate that you need a very fast speaker with a clear and airy treble to bring out the best of YBA.

The timing of YBA is so natural that gets compromised in anything other than a super fast speaker. YBA would also benefit from a tweeter with great soundstaging ability to produce the air around the instruments that the YBA Passion Integre is so capable of.

The Proac Response 2.5 is a lovely speaker with a very musical and emotional presentation and a warm and lush sound. However it does lack the ultimate speed and goes for body rather than soundstaging. As a result, in my view, it fails to bring the best out of the YBA Passion Integre. The Vienna Acoustics Bach is much better in that respect and makes you forget about hi-fi, and just listen to the music.

When I get a chance I'll get to listen to the JM Lab and the Triangle ranges and will let you know how it goes.

Thanks again.

Demetris

defstathiou

I totally agree with Mike. I too used to have N804s and can relate to what you said very easily. Funny how those speakers are like that.

I can vouch for the JM Lab Electra line but now they also have a new one called the "Profile." Don't know much about it except that it looks pretty cool. I am anxiously awaiting the new Electra line-up but they will be coming with a rather significant price increase.... I personally feel there are better values than the Cobalt series but that may change with their upcoming revamping.

I am also interested in what you think of your ProAcs. I was thiking about trying some D25s for a while and still may.

Arthur

aball

How do the Proac Response 2.5's integrate into your system?

YBA electronics seem to benefit from fast, almost electrostatic speakers speed. That is why I think the French speaker manufactures of JM Lab and Triangle work well with YBA. I wonder if YBA uses their own countries speaker manufacturers to voice their electronics.

JM Lab has very lively tweeters (as well as Triangle), but without harshness like B&W. The Triangle's are faster sounding, but not as nice looking.

JM Lab has a line below Utopia called the Electra, which is supposed to be quite good, almost Utopia. The next model down, the Cobalt floorstanders have gotten great reviews, particularly the entry Cobalt floorstander, the 816s ("s" is new signature version). They are available in great finishes, too,

So I anxious to hear your report on the Proac's.

Mike

mjcmt

Owner
Thanks Mike and Arthur for your comments.

I apprecaite your comments about the speakers and agree with you. They are the weakest link but the sound is very musical and satisfying which makes me less paranoid about finding better speakers. Actually, very recently, I bought some second hand Proac Response 2.5 which am now trying out.

Next, I'll take your advice and try some affordable JM Lab speakers. I heard the JM Lab Diva Utopia Be when first listening to the YBA electronics (hooked up with some expensive MIT speaker cables) and the sound was breathtaking! The Diva's were amazing but are also very expensive.

You know, prior to the Vienna Acoustics I was using B&W Nautilus 804s. It was a love / hate relationship with those speakers and geting rid of them was the best thing I did. It is so hard to get speakers right, isn't? In trying to find a replacement I listened to around 20 pairs from B&W, Proac, Martin Logan, ATC, PMC, Wilson Benesch, Vienna Acoustics, Polk, Red Rose, AVI, Monitor Audio, NHT etc. It was not fun as my room is bright and many good speakers ended up being tiring when in the room.

The most musical speakers were Proac Tablette Reference 8 (not enough bass to fill the room), Reference 3a MM Da Cappo (very low WAF) and JM Lab Micro Utopia Be (lovely but expensive).

A friend has the Vienna Acoustics Bach and after long listening with the YBA over a number of sessions... I really liked their speed, airiness and laid back musicality... so went and bought a cheap second hand pair as an interim solution. At least they are much more constistently satisfying that the B&W Nautilus 804s!

Will keep you posted on the JM Labs.

Regards
Demetris

defstathiou

Very nice setup. I want to try some YBA very soon. I appreciate the refinement French electronics have to offer, owning Kora and JM Lab. YBA and Jadis are the next ones on the list to try out. I agree with Mike above that you owe it to your excellent electronics to try different speakers. I know your Bachs and feel the JM Labs are in another league as well. Anyway, glad to see someone enjoying their system. Arthur

aball

Beautiful System. Love the YBA line, but I can't afford it. I have an Audio Refinement Pre-5 (I'm am looking for a used Multi-2 amp and Complete Alpha CD - both used). I know that they are not the same league as your YBA Passion, but similar family signature, so I know your system is beautiful sounding. Maybe I will own it someday, but if I just get the other 2 Audio Refinement pieces I will be a happy camper.

After years a chasing the carrot, I'm tired and upgrading/changing and want to enjoy the music again, like my first hi quality system in 1971. That is where YBA excels...vey musical and listenable. If it is like vinyl, then I'm with you 100%. The hyper-detailed audiophile sound is not music and not for me anymore. I'm tired of analyzing equipment and sounds, and I want it simple and beautiful to look at. I lost sight of the reason for it all and YBA and Linn brings it back.

I have been doing a lot of research, and I find the JM Lab (another French co.) model Cobalt 816s the perfect match to YBA/Audio Refinement, within a reasonable price. Much more refined than the Chorus, but not at the expense of the Electra and Utopia models. I highlights YBA's strengths and overcome their weaknesses. You should give them a listen. I have heard Vienna. Very good but not in the same league as your electronics...but JM Lab is.

Enyoy,
Mike

mjcmt

Owner
Thanks Artg for your comments

How are your speakers? I would assume that your Sonus Faber's sound is similar to the Vienna Acoustics Bach (warm with silk dome tweeters, paper cones etc) but I would bet they must be a major step up. Do you think they may present a wise upgrade?

Will post some pictures very soon.

Regards

defstathiou

Obviously every system is like a fingerprint in its uniqueness, cause rarely are the exact same components paired in the same combination. I have heard your speakers in a shop, and have heard the amp as well (separately) - both EXCELLET choices which must also sound good together. As much as I'm biased towards tubes, i really appreciate the YBA sound. Well balanced and though out system.

POST SOME PICTURES!

artg

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