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I have been in this hobby over 30 years and in that time have had the pleasure and good fortune to own many many high end components and gear.  My goal in the past 6 years was to progress to a smaller footprint than my big Genesis speakers with Vitus monos, and still have great sound.  I just didn't have the room in my new home for the big system AND all the boxes and crates!  LOL.  

 I tried a number of fantastic products over those 6 years......Manley, Zanden, the amazing D'Agostino, Coincident, Backert Labs, Vitus, APL, Jeff Rowland, Emm Labs.  I'm finally settled on my MSB/ EMM DV2 combo, with Absolare Stereo amp and Tannoy Speakers.........bit of a mix for cables, with Echole Omnia, TEO, Stage III Gorgon and Musica Bella Kuala2 power cables.  Pics to come.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 20’ × 14’  Medium
Ceiling: 17’


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    • Tannoy Canterbury GR
    The newest and greatest from Tannoy, the Gold Reference series. Still breaking in the system but loving it!

    Six years later, very very happy with these speakers.  They gave me exactly what I was looking for stepping down from my 4 tower Genesis speakers.  Still wanted great sound, emotion and soul and a much smaller footprint.  On top of that they can pound out some unbelievable bass, and drums, when I kick things up.  I've tried many different amps with these speakers, to get what I feel is right.  I finally feel like I've hit a home run with the Absolare/Tannoy combo....just unbelievable.
    • Absolare Passion Hybrid Stereo
    The latest amp from Absolare.  Released end of May 2020.  Just breaking it in.  Fabulous tone and soundstage already. Added some NOS 12AU7 tubes from the 1950's and 1960's and this amp just loves them.
    • MSB UMT Plus
    Plays and Spins everything digital, including 3D BluRay.  Awesome.
    • MSB Technology Dual Signature Power Base
    I was using a desktop power supply for my MSB UMT Plus.  Switched to a new Dual signature power base from MSB.  Love the improved performance.
    • EMM Labs DV2
    Latest and greatest from EMM.  Picked up new July 2020, with newly designed remote.  Awesome unit.  Improvement in Soundstage depth, tone, timing, bass, voice.  Without a doubt my last DAC.
    • EMM Labs NS-1
    Added the EMM Labs Streamer, NS1.  This will be my 1st time steaming, looking forward to the convenience when not spinning discs.
    • Tripoint Troy Signature NG
    This is the third Troy I’ve owned, amazing gear.
    • Stage III Concepts Gorgon Interconnect
    Sold the Purist and moving to the Stage III Concepts top of the line Gorgon.  It's on order and should be here within 2 weeks.  Loved the Purist of course, fantastic cable!  The Stage III stuff I'm interested in because of the body it adds, even moreso than the Purist.  Love that big beautiful romantic sound......will see soon just how different it is from the Purist, or not!!
    • PS Audio P15
    Added the PS Audio P15 power regenerator.  Upgrade from the P12.  Very very happy with the performance of PS Audio Regenerators.  I have everything plugged into it.
    • Stage III Concepts Medusa Speaker Cable
    • Stage III Concepts Cerberus Jumpers
    Best Jumpers Stage III sells……..the Tannoy Love them.
    • Musica Bella Kuala2 power cords
    Design and build by Mike Vice with Bybee influence.  Check out Clement Perry review.
    • Stand: Home made
    I made my stand using a double layer of Maple, so it's 3.5" thick on the shelves.  Weight is easily 300lbs.  This made a serious improvement in the sound.  Really seemed to literally anchor the music in place.  Was a lot of work and it's not perfect by any means, but I'm very very happy with the results.
    • Critical Mass Systems Centre stage footers
    • IsoAcoustics GAIA
    Put these footers on my Tannoy and the results are fabulous.  The speakers now sound like they weight 1000lbs.
    • Walker Valid points
    These were laying around doing nothing so put them under the digital gear.  Not sure if they made much difference as I've had lots going on in the system lately, but I do love the look and extra height they give the gear for airflow.
    • QSA Black/Red Receptacle
    Wow, love these!  Thought I would try the Red Receptacle first, loved it so much I immediately upgraded to the black/red!!
    • HRS S3 Platforms
    A couple of HRS Platforms for the EMM Labs gear.
    • Hemingway Creation Power Cord
    I owned the Hemingway speaker cable and loved it…..thrilled to get some Hemingway back in the system via this Power Cord.
    • HighEnd Novum PA MkII
    • ADD-POWR Sorcer X4

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Owner
Thanks so much Mark and Lalitk.  Appreciate your comments and tips!  I did have a Tripoint Troy years back and really liked it!  Interesting that the Entreq work well also!  Have to look into that!  Really appreciate the tip!!

bullot

Owner
Thanks so much for the info, I’ll have to check that out!  Yeah I’ve been fortunate to have some nice amps, and I’m pretty happy with the Absolare.  I picked up a number of different 1950’s NOS tubes to use with it…..that’s fun!  Not a huge difference between them but just a nice little flavour variance that makes it fun!

bullot

Owner
Thanks so much for the update, that’s very good to know!  I absolutely agree with you on synergy…….the most important word in high end audio.  Many thanks.

bullot

Owner
NICE!!  Thanks for the update!  I’ve always wanted to try the Dartzeel so be sure and let me know how it sounds!  Curious also to hook up and Entreq to the Tannoy ground post!!!

bullot

Owner

Hey there RJ....thanks, and, nice to hear from you!

Some interesting points you make....and, I am actually pushing 60 years old, but have been very active in this high end audio gig for over 30 years!!

I am Canadian, eh...…  It's interesting that the EMM Labs stuff I tried years ago, CDSA SE I believe it was, and didn't like it!  EMM is actually about an hour from me......got a great story about picking up the DV2 from them but, another time!  This DV2 is quite different from their older stuff, very very happy with it.  No, I don't actually give preference to Canadian stuff!  If something blows my hair back it doesn't matter where it's made!  Well, maybe a little, it has to be good value in the sense that it has a chance of holding some market value and that's not always the case with some countries of manufacture.  You were right on the EMM and Iso-acoustics, but the Absolare is a different beast.  Parts are German, manufactured in Holland and fine tuning/design is led by a fellow out of Turkey.

Has the bar changed!?  Hmmm.  That's a long winded answer I believe.  I don't have to tell you that synergy is king.  Synergy and being true to yourself and what you like/enjoy.  Also, so much can be squeezed out of a system with attention to detail.  But has my bar changed?  You know one thing I've learned is that you don't need a $250K system to enjoy it.  If your system gets your foot tapping and a smile on your face, you are there!

Churchill No48..….wow they look beautiful.  Very cool.  The Atmasphere gear I tried a while back, well just the preamp......reference pre, can't remember the designation!!?  I remember it because we always refer to a component removing a veil and being able to see more into the music.  I felt the Atma preamp not only removed a veil, but blew the curtains off the wall and then dismantled the walls....soooo open and exposed!  At the time I was afraid of tube amps and the sight of all those tubes in the Atma amps made my knees shake!  lol  Beautiful, but for me at the time they were over my head!

Very cool.....a very nice analogue setup you have!  I have not been down the analogue road at all, but I have read enough and chatted enough to recognize all those names!  I would love to hear a very nice analogue setup like that one day!  Again, that was a direction that there was so much to know about, and it all made a difference, so it scared me to digital, which has worked out for me.....ignorance is bliss perhaps!!?  lol


With regards to low level listening and micro-acoustics.....I recently picked up some Critical Mass footers......amazing!  The Iso-acoustics under the Tannoy were also amazing.  They made the speakers sound like they weighed 1000lbs.  With respect to low level listening and micro acoustics....a few years back I owned a Grounding component called the Tripoint Troy!  Amazing what after market grounding will do!!  I ended up selling the Troy, long story...…..but the Entreq stuff looks interesting and a more reasonable price.....I'll end up giving that a try at some point.

Always interested in tips if you have some things that have worked for you!  Also interested in great recordings if you have any recommendations!?  Doesn't have to be any specific genre.

bullot

Owner

Thanks very much Balazs.  Yes I've had a number of amps with the Canterbury speakers, including the Zanden, Manley, Rowland, D'Agostino, Absolare and Vitus.  I would have loved to get my hands on the Zanden 9600 you mention.  I did try, but was only able to find a pair of the 9500 available, which would have been fantastic as well, but the timing of the deal was off.  ( I think that I had just purchased the Dag)  Anyways....

The Zanden that I had with the Canterbury was the 6000 integrated.  I absolutely loved the Zanden sound with the Canterbury.  It didn't matter what music I played, it seemed there was always a particular volume that was the magic spot, the sweet spot....a spot where everything came alive right there in the room!!  The only thing.....only thing, that I did not like about the Zanden 6000 was the design, visually.  The 9500 and 9600 Zanden amps are gorgeous visually, works of art, but they are elusive to aquire!  So, I had to go with the 6000 to get a chance to experience Zanden.  I was torn about selling that amp because it was a beautiful sound, I just couldn't live with the looks!  After that I believe I ended up going for all looks, with the D'Agostino.  lol   The Dag was a cool amp, could impress with it's power......that amp could really make those Tannoys move!  lol    However, after experiencing the sweet and beautiful top end of the Zanden, the Dag was too harsh for me.  Now, that was the Dag Momentum Stereo 250 amp I believe.....and I've heard that those amps have improved considerably since the 1st bunch that came out!  I will never know because I would never go in that direction again.  Next up was the Vitus SIA025, which I love.  I had owned the Vitus Mono amps years earlier and knew what Vitus was all about and knew that I would be very happy with the SIA025...…..and I was!!  The Vitus had surprising authority on the bottom end, with the Canterburys, for 25 watts it was shocking how subterranean that amp could push the Tannoy.  But it was a different bottom end than the Dag.  Much more refined.  The Vitus was beautiful from top to bottom, with a tad less midrange than I wanted, in my dreams!  I still love Vitus and would buy another.  Then.....I came across the EMM Labs DV2 DAC. The DV2 has volume control, so that opened my options up on amps and I got the bug to try a stereo amp again, and use the DV2 as the volume control.  In came the Jeff Rowland 625 S2...…(I believe) (not sure on the S2 Part!!)  I hooked up the JR and ran it up, let it settle in, playing low to mid level music for a few hours while I was out.  I came home and thought ok its operating fine (purchased used), and I will listen seriously to the amp in the coming week, on my days off.  At that point I shut the JR off and had a serious pop go through the system.  Everytime I shut the JR off it popped through the system!  I've never had that happen before!  The fellow that had it before me was very respected and bought it new so if that was an "issue" he could have had warranty look after it!  Seemed it did this from new and was "normal"!?  Normal for JR!!??  I don't know.....it's the only JR I've heard so can't comment on the normal for JR part!  Perhaps my system was sensitive with the 96db Tannoy!??  Again, not sure......but, I could not live with that situation and moved on from JR.  I did of course listen to the amp a little bit prior to selling it and thought it did everything very well.  Unfortunately my mind was already made up, before I listened critically, that I could not live with that pop, no matter how quiet or loud the pop was.  The 625 is physically small but a beautiful piece.  The sound was impressive top to bottom, but sounded a like it was trying too hard to be good!  If that makes sense!?  The Dag was like Raquel Welch, bam in your face and very real like it or not......the Vitus Sophia Loren or Audrey Hepburn.  The JR was an unknown woman, and even though she had the same outfit as the others were wearing, she just didn't have that joie de vivre......and it seemed maybe implants as well.  She was trying too hard to be them and just wasn't quite there!  lol  There are some analogies for you!! 

Sorry about the run-on paragraph.....just got excited reminiscing!!  lol 

Out went the JR.  At this point I'm tired of buying and selling and just want off the roller coaster.  I had an opportunity to order a new Absolare Hybrid Stereo amplifier, and I jumped on it.  The Absolare is awesome.  It does everything awesome.  The sweet spot of the Zanden, the top end of the Zanden and Vitus, the quality subterranean level of the Vitus and the speaker moving growl of the Dag.  On top of all that I can, and do, change out the two tubes to refine things in one direction or another......not a night and day change, just a refinement!!  I've sat in front of my system, in the early morning hours and had more "holy f@#k" moments with the Absolare than anything.  So happy with that amp and the entire setup now.  I spend WAY more time reading about music and what songs to check out, than I do about gear anymore!

I guess the point of all this is...….the Canterburys exposed all that to me.  From one amplifier to another, the differences were exposed.  Great speakers, AND, gorgeous to look at!  What more could you ask!!



Hope that helps!  Thanks for sparking the trip down memory lane!!  lol

bullot

Owner
Yes thank-you very much.  As you said, I’m pretty much done.  I did put some Critical Mass footers under my DAC recently and loved the improvement in soundstage.  So, perhaps a few tweeks left to do but most of my time is spent looking for and listening to new music!

bullot

Owner
Thanks very much.  I’m pretty thrilled with the Tannoy performance!  Think I’ve had them 6 years now!  They have outstayed many different components and cables, and I can’t see them going anywhere.

The homemade stand…..yes I got all the parts for that at the local hardware store.  Bought 3 kitchen counter tops, cut them in half and glued and screwed them together.  A little sanding and such, wood stain, and bam, three shelves.  The big metal pieces were needed to support the weight of the shelves.  I then used the smaller threaded metal pieces to adjust the legs so that they were square.  I just screw one of the nuts in or out to adjust the required leg position.  Works great.  The shelf probably weighs 400lbs and acts as superior vibration control.

bullot

Owner
Good day.  Yeah Inpove the GAIA!!  Surprised me how much difference it made!  My speakers sound like they weigh 1000lbs now...... if you know what I mean!  There is a very small edge that you have to ever so slightly grind with a dremmel to make them fit!  It’s not visible and it’s underneath and no issue but you should know!  I’ve recommended the GAIA to a couple other Tannoy guys and they were ecstatic!!

Shane

bullot

Owner
The Absolare is pretty awesome.  I really loved my Vitus amps over the years but the Absolare is strong where I wished my Vitus had a little more...in the Midrange.  The Tannoy seem to really love the extra power as well.  Overall I just couldn't be happier with the combo.  Think I have just under 200 hours on the Absolare so it's still breaking in I suppose.  I've pushed things a few times to see where the limits might be and am amazed at how neither the amp or speaker blinked, they love each other!  LOL.  Just a little fine tuning to do with a component footer here and there, but no hurry on that....think I've spend enough for a while.  A good indication that I'm happy with the setup is that I spend almost all my time looking at music instead of gear!  Best Regards.

bullot

Owner
I have a Stage III Concepts Gorgon Interconnect on the way.  I loved the Stage III power cords, Kraken......but the weight was just too much for my setup.  Hoping to get some of that Stage III magic with the Gorgon!!

bullot

Owner
New model (release May 2020) Absolare Hybrid Stereo amp on the way. Looks like about a 6 week delivery...…..gonna be a long 6 weeks!!

bullot

Owner
Thanks much!  I’ve had some time with the DV2 as it breaks-in, and love the directions it’s going!

bullot

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Bought a new Emm Labs DV2.  The DV2 has a volume control which opened up options for my amplifier selection.  Jeff Rowland 625S2 on the way.  Also added a Stage III Kraken to supply power to it all through the regenerator.

bullot

Owner

Absolutely...still running with the Vitus SIA-025MkII.  Awesome unit.  Had the Vitus Mono amps and preamp a few years back, tried a number of amps after that looking for a smaller footprint.  In the end the only amp that kept me satisfied was the Vitus.  In fact I went from the D'Agostino Momentum S200 to this Vitus.  With the efficiency of the Tannoy the Vitus is a perfect amp, tons of power, and such a beautiful sound.

Thanks pehare….I converted to the Tannoy from the 4 tower Genesis speakers.  Still a fantastic sound with a much smaller footprint as I downsized.

bullot

Owner
Agreed.  I owned a very expensive 4 tower Genesis speaker set with Vitus mono amps pushing them...…. prior to owning these Tannoy with Vitus Integrated.  I enjoy this Tannoy/Vitus combo as much as my Genesis/Vitus combo...…….and love the smaller footprint.  What these speakers do with 25 watts Class A is amazing.  People that came into my home when I had the Genesis/Vitus combo were amazed by the size...…..people that come into my home now are amazed by the beauty of the speakers aesthetically and then the sound of the Tannoy/Vitus combo.  I would have to spend an outrageous amount of money to improve on this combo,,,,and then it may just be a mostly different flavour more than better sound.  Fab speakers...at times I run the nuts off these things and they just keep impressing.....bullet proof.

bullot

Owner

Sorry for the late reply....….well, way past late really!!  LOL.  I just don't seem to log on and update  my system very much, or read the comments!  Busy life right now I guess...…..I'll have to slow down and enjoy A'gon again.

I actually sold the Momentum and went back to Vitus.  I have the Vitus mono amps with Vitus pre, a number of years ago and loved it.  So in the interest of downsizing I went for the Vitus Integrated...…..and it's perfect for my system.  The Momentum was fab no doubt, had serious slam, the Vitus has a touch sweeter top end which really suits my system.  The slam isn't as outrageous but it still has serious bottom end, and again I just love the Vitus sound.

bullot

Owner

Hey yeah thanks for the comments Dan.  I know what you mean by your 1st post.........I've found that synergy is the most important factor when putting gear together.

Thanks on the stand comment Dan!  Haha yes I put a lot of work into that, took me probably a week of solid work.  You are right, it is built like a tank!  It's amazing the difference it made, images locked in place now!  Thing has to weigh 300lbs without equipment!  Right again on the enjoyment factor when doing something for yourself rather than spending a ton of cash for someone else to do it.  I'm very happy with the end result.  I bought a couple of wood kitchen counters from local lumber shop, cut to size, laminated together, planed and sanded sanded sanded.

bullot

Owner
Thanks Dan.  Yes I've had Manley Neo Classic, Zanden, D'Agostino, and Vitus on these.  Each brought something special, and showed me how versatile these speakers can be.  They were amazing with the power of the Dag, and again amazing with the sweet Zanden.  I find the Vitus the middle of the two which is perfect for my enjoyment.  Sounds like you know your Tannoy!  I took a leap of faith after owning the 4 Tower Genesis.........and I'm pretty happy/settled.

bullot

Owner
Update system changes from over the past year or so.  Very close to final setup going into retirement in a couple of years.  I would like to upgrade my Purist LTD power cable to perhaps the Purist 25th Anni, or perhaps a Stage III Concepts, otherwise I can't think of anything I would change.  Just enjoying the music very much these days.

bullot

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Finally getting where I wanted to be when I started this journey of having a system with a smaller footprint.  I went from the huge and fantastic 4 tower Genesis system with Vitus Mono amps and Tripoint Troy, etc.  Now I am down to my MSB front end, a Vitus Integrated and Tannoy Speakers.  I wanted a much smaller system and still maintain great performance, and after 3 years of trying different setups, I'm here.  Now I will just fine tune the system by upgrading a Purist PC, probably some Purist SC and some Stillpoints.  I loved the big Genesis rig I was running, very impressive in every way.........but to essentially have 2 components and a pair of speakers is so nice for my current home.......not to mention I can park in my garage again with all the boxes and crates I have moved out!  LOL.

bullot

Owner
Added High Fidelity Ultimate Reference RCA ic.  Magnificent piece of gear.  All the reviews are accurate.  Easily equal to major component upgrade.  Easily best ic I've ever heard.

bullot

Owner
System edited: Big changes in the effort to stream-line my system into a smaller footprint without losing quality. Sold Manley Preamp and have my Manley Mono amps for sale. Essentially trading out 3 components and 3 power cords with 2 ic's for one component, Zanden 6000, and 1 power cord with 1 ic. Takes up a lot less space, less wires and the sound should be sublime! Zanden not here yet.......within the next week I hope! Wow, just noticed I'm in the Ever Evolving category....got that one right. Hopefully this is it for a while........I really loved the sound of the Manley Tube gear and I have to assume the Zanden will at least equal it with a smaller footprint!

bullot

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Thanks for all your thoughts and comments. How I got here........well as much as I enjoyed my Genesis/Vitus combo I eventually wanted to downsize in the physical presence of the system but not the sound quality. Also, over the years and long list of equipment one of my favourite pieces was my Joule LA300 preamp......on many occasions it brought tears to my eyes, and to me that's where the soul of music lives, if you can get to that point emotionally while listening to music you are done! Wish I knew that then. Long story short, after much reading and emails to owners I had to try the Tannoy.........I had also put the Manley gear on a short list of tube gear to match up with the Tannoy, when I found out that Evanna Manley owned Tannoy, so it seemed obvious to me they would probably be a good match and worth a try.

What I have now is at least equal in soundstage and midrange with a sweeter natural top end and an easiness to it.......sit back and relax. Strangely the system has more detail.....first thing I noticed. What I am missing is the bass assault the Genesis provided. The Tannoy have great bass and great quality bass, and I can play a drum solo that would have you amazed.....fantastic drum sound and presence.......but where the Genesis excelled was with its own remote for the bass. If I was playing a recording that I thought was engineered poorly or week with respect to bass, I could just turn it up the bass volume control....loved that about them!

So I am very happy with the setup, and look forward to finding what the odd tube swap can bring me! I would still like to downsize to one stereo amp some day, although very impressed with the Manley amps both sound wise and aesthetically........beautiful amps lit up in a dark room

bullot

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System edited: Finally..........added picture of current system.

bullot

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Thanks for the tip Musicmann.......I have actually read about Jims recommendation and the support it has amongst the Tannoy crowd. That said Tannoy recommends against it saying their Prestige GR series are not designed with that in mind. Taking all that into consideration, yes I absolutely will at least give it a try. In fact a recent review of the new GR had the front tilted up, with positive results. So I was actually planning, tomorrow night, to put my Tannoy supplied footers under the front of the speaker to give it a bit of an upward direction, and see how that works! I will also, in the near future try the 8-12 inch "lift kit" you recommend. Tks.

bullot

Owner
Yep been busy is right Mark. I really really need to get some new pics up!! I have some reno's going on right now and hope to get the system back in place this week and will post some pics......said that before but this time I mean it! I do love the tubes.....don't feel like I am missing anything and gain so much with respect to emotion and tone, presence. I always loved my Joule preamp so went to tubes. I can see ending up with a SS amp at some time, but will always have a tube pre I think.

bullot

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System edited: Added a number of Sablon cables lately......speaker cables as well as Grand Carona power cables to conditioner and amps.

bullot

Owner
I would love to try the Joule LA450 preamp, and some Joule amps of course would be fun. At this time however, I got a killer deal on my new Manley gear and am very happy with it. I really need to get to know my system again, optimize it, and see where I am. Any tips from Tannoy owners would be appreciated.

bullot

Owner
Thanks for all the comments folks. Spring has been busy but promise to get pics up right away.

A little more info.........I loved my Genesis/Vitus combo, and have the greatest respect for both companies. I would not hesitate to purchase either again, and I mean that sincerely. My only issue with either was size/weight. The 4 tower Genesis were huge and ever since day one with them, oh maybe 7 years ago, I knew a smaller speaker would eventually be in the system. It took me that long to find one I thought would be able to bring me the enjoyment the Genesis did without spending mortgage type money.

With respect to "enjoying the music again", I think that was a little overstated with my excitement!! Bottom line.......a few years ago I had a Joule Electra LA300 in my system, which brought an emotional aspect to the music that I had not previously experienced. Deeply emotional. I believe after all my years auditioning and buying/selling gear, that that is where I want to be.........with an emotional system.

I am still breaking in the Manley/Tannoy combo so can't even say if I am back at the emotional level I experience with the Genesis/Levinson/Joule combo I had years ago, but I can tell right now, that it's getting there and I'm very excited for that. I am actually still working with placement of the Tannoy and have found big changes there. Also adjustments on the ports along with that is helping to fine tune them in my room. Right now I think my weak link, and I say that tongue in cheek, is my Stealth V10 speaker cable. Magnificent speaker cable the Stealth.............but I think my Manley/Tannoy will take a huge leap forward with a copper cable. I briefly had a Purist cable in my system just before the Genesis left and found it added a fair bit of body to the music over the Stealth.

So all in all, I changed a lot of gear at once, which is definitely not preferable, but it was really just a matter of opportunity at the time and I pulled the trigger.

Final comment........the Tannoy have a ground post that I am using to hook up to the Troy, and am loving that option.

Final final comment............I really would be negligent to leave it that without mentioning the Manley gear. I was thrilled with the packaging and quality build, and attention to detail on this gear. It's beautiful stuff....solid, musical and serious slam on rock music. Every aspect of my Manley experience to this point has been a joy and beyond my expectations, great company. While on the topic of build quality the Tannoy cabinetry and build quality is also stunning. Everyone who sees them, audio person or not, comments on their beauty, which pictures cannot capture. The workmanship on the wood is stunning. The owners manual is by far the nicest I have seen, and the accessories, including wood wax, came in a beautiful walnut wood case. At this point I am very impressed with the care these two companies have out into their product.

bullot

Owner
System edited: I have in the past few months had a complete system overhaul, moving from Genesis 4 tower speakers combined with Vitus Monos and Preamp........to the new Tannoy Canterbury Gold Reference speakers with the Manley Neo Classic 250 Mono amps and Neo Classic 300 Preamp on the front end. I am loving the tube gear and the Tannoy combination with it, couldn't be happier........the combination leaves me very settled and at ease, loving the music again. I will get some pics of the new setup soon.

bullot

Owner
Thanks for the tweak feedback.....never noticed that before. (Got rid of the tweakiness!)

bullot

Owner
Thanks Mark. Nice that you got to sit down and read some blogs and listen to tunes I'm sure! Merry XMass to you and hope all is well and the new speakers are breaking in nicely.

bullot

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System edited: Update pics

bullot

Owner
PS. I am going to update pics this week, these are very old obviously!

bullot

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Thanks for the comments Glenfihi. The speakers are pretty incredible.......I don't like the footprint they have (take up alot of space), but, what can you do.....I hope to be able to get a smaller speaker some day and not lose too much in sonics.

bullot

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Hey there Mark.....yeah lots new in the past year or so, the Vitus mono amps and preamp and now the MSB. I have about 400 hours on the DAC now and it is the best sound I have heard, really.....very nice! Big improvement in soundstage, detail and realism. I know that's a relative statement, big, but it really was big. Has to be the biggest "upgrade" I have done in years. I am very excited to have it break-in even further, and get the transport into the system as that will eliminate a weak link in my i.c. between the Faroudja and the MSB Dac. Very excited about the MSB sound and options and upgradability!

bullot

Owner
System edited: Just added a new MSB Platinum Dac to the system, awaiting the MSB Universal player to be built and then will be moving out my amazing modded Faroudja source.

bullot

Owner
Yes the law of Deminishing returns has kicked in big time! I now can taylor my sound to what I like knowing whether I'm losing quality in the mix or not! I am happy with the system obviously but do miss very much my Joule preamp, that thing breathed soul into the system!

bullot

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Hey Mark, good to hear from you! Lovin the amps! I have an Elrod Gold Statement on each one now! It's a busy time of year for me, 72hour work weeks for the next couple of months, so not really any time to listen!

I had tried the liquid fuses but one blew upon turning power on to the system, so I nixed that idea and am just using the hifi gold I believe! (Can't keep up with myself)

I honestly think I will be on system standbye for a few years, as any upgrades or changes I would consider are expensive! (smaller but high end speakers, source)

If you are looking for a cheap upgrade worth it's weight in gold, try the Maestro outlets! Yowsa!!

bullot

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I had just got the liquid fuses and one blew on me! It may be my fault as the manual said 10A fuse but the ones in it were 12.5A fuses! I went with the 10 A to be safe and one popped as soon as I put power to it! Could have also been a faulty fuse, don't know for sure! I now have new fuses coming in that are not liquid but are high-end fuses! I find the good fuses clean things up a tad! I find them to perform along the same line as the Bybee stuff or Tripoint Troy! Of course not nearly at the same level but then again they are $30 or $40 each

bullot

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Thanks Mark, I would love to try the Elrod considering the power cable performance! Wish I could try both Elrod and Opus in my system, it would be so much easier to decide! I am in no hurry, I've spent wayyyy too much the past couple of years, on my audio system! I also have Teo Liquid ic's which I love, and auditioning the speaker cable version would be a thrill.

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Thanks Lapierre, and that's a great question! I think I will sit tight for a while and just listen to tunes! I am curious about Transparent Opus speaker cable, but would like to audition first......kind of tough to audition some of this stuff!! I love the Joule sound and it would be great if I could get my hands on the LA450 for an audition! I would also like to get a speaker with a smaller footprint, however I don't want to spend a ton of money just for a smaller footprint! I suspect if I come across a deal on Elrod power cords I will get two for the amps, otherwise I think I'm on standbye for a while!

bullot

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Thanks Maxx. Just after plugging the Vitus in for a day or two my new Elrod Gold Statement power cord arrived for the preamp, and it's a beautiful thing. Impressive PC. Right now I am using Isoclean Supreme Focus as amp power cords, but would love to try the Elrods there some day!

Today I received some new Liquid fuses for the Vitus and can't wait to try them in the next couple of days!

bullot

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Thanks Mark! I still may have some customs issues to work out, I'll know shortly! Don't know what it is with me and amps that gets customs and shippers in a frenzie! Actually to be fair it was the shipping company that messed things up badly with respect to paperwork.......these amps being from Denmark and shipped from USA!!!

I hope one day to get my hands on some of that Elrod gear you are so happy with!! Merry XMass and nice to hear from you again!

bullot

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Vitus mono amps are in the system and performing wonderfully. Not really much to say about them, they are essentially better in every regard to my 33H's. The biggest difference is in sound stage and detail. Overall a very nice upgrade which gives me a good understanding of the difference between an older reference amp and a newer reference amp. Even though the Vitus is better in every regard, the difference is not night and day, it's not a paradigm swing.

bullot

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Thanks Mark! I will update as soon as they get here! Customs issues right now.......been hung up at the border for over a week.

bullot

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System edited: Levinson 33H's gone and just waiting for the new amps to get here! (Vitus SM101 Monoblocks) Should be here within the next week.

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System edited: Added the TEO interconnects and the Tripoint Troy. I will be putting new pics on right away and you will notice I have taken off the speaker grills on the Genesis. I was talking to Gary Koh and he mentioned that for small rooms I should try taking off the side wings on the mid/tweeter panels. I love the result, plut alot less of a fooptint.

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System edited: I have added the MBL6010D and feel I am done in preamp searches, and buying and selling for a while to come. Also added some Bybee ic bullets.....love the Bybee stuff. I put some amp stands under the Levinsons which had a very nice affect for the money, and some Combak Harmonix footers for the Universal player. I also put some new power outlets in the wall, the Porter Ports, which initially blew me away, but not sure anymore.......I think they might just be going through a break-in thing as I only have maybe 40 or 50 hours on them! Whether I "like" them or not, I could not go back to the .98cent Home Depot outlets.......I may try other brands of high end outlets though, get the right one and they will be wonderful I'm sure. Just the way the outlets grab the power cord is so much better.......

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Roger Wilco Joe!! For those not in the know, I just picked up an MBL6010D and am comparing it with the Atma in my system!

It's way too early to give any feedback yet......I have 2 hours listening to the MBL under my belt right now! It has not settled in by any means, arrived cold and lonely, so I will warm it up and make it feel at home and do a real comparison on the weekend!

I can say at this time, they are both exquisite! I would say brothers from a different mother! Wonderful components.

bullot

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Hmmm, A-S vs Joule preamp........I knew this was coming! I can sum it up somewhat, although not very scientific if you don't mind!

The A-S really took me by surprise......I sat there listening, confused. I have had so many components and power cords and ic's, sources, amps, blah blah blah. With each one I could assess what they did to the bass, mids and highs, as well as sound stage,etc., etc. With the Atmasphere it was like.......sitting in a concert or lounge or whatever venue, listening to the band. I could no longer assess the normal things I used to! I mean, when you are in the particular venue listening to the "band" do you say to yourself......hmmm how is the soundstage.........the midrange, whatever....those things kind of disappeared and I was listening to the artist now, for the first time, and not the particular aspects of the music.

That said, I still love the Joule. The Joule provided a romantic edge to the music that touched me deeply at times. It's a difficult and confusing thing comparing the two. I can provide an example using video comparison! When watching a music video on DVD you hear the music see the artist and enjoy to whatever degree you and your system can go. Now watch the same music video on Blu-Ray. Now all of a sudden you see the blemish on the artists face, the bald spot, the dirt spot on the shirt! Has that taken away from the performance or the romance, has it distracted you.......are you disappointed the performance you thought was incredible and perfect you now see the flaws in?

Bottom line, the Joule is very romantic, I loved it, it was emotional, I cried at times. The Atmasphere puts the performers in the room, literally. It did not put them in the room "better" than this or better than that....because nothing I have tried can be mentioned in the same discussion with respect to "put them in the room". Nothing I have used has any business using that phrase compared to the Atma!!

So, Joule of Atma........Joule very emotional, Atma is very "there", hear the missed notes the human side of every performer, because they are right in front of you.

Where does that leave a person......I don't know, that's why I'm confused! Do you prefer to listen to an absolutely perfect sweet rendition of a performance on recording or do you want the artist in the room with full disclosure and exposure no matter what!

bullot

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System edited: This fall I swapped out the Joule LA300ME for the Atmasphere MP1 Mk3.1 With the Atma, I am able to use a cheap in from pre to amps. I was able to sell my Very Expensive Stealth Sakra for the Mogami mic cable! I think everyone knows how much the Sakra is..........I have over $20K (list price) in Sakra cabling........the Mogami cost to replace, $10 plus XLR connectors! Yeah, you read that right.....unbelievable, and enough to get a guy angry really! I have been on this cable rollercoaster for years, and the Atma/Mogami combo enabled me to get rid of over $20K in ic cable! (Twenty Thousand!!) I have also updated my Faroudja Universal player. I have always loved this unit and was looking to spend some serious money on an upgrade! After MUCH looking and auditioning, emailing, reviews, etc., I just did not know where to go with my source! So, for now I decided to play it safe and invest in an upgrade/mod on the Faroudja. I sent the unit to Chris Johnson of Parts Connextion in Toronto. For a very reasonable price compared to a new high end upgrade, I was able to put the Faroudja on the "juice" and keep it in the system. I continue to love it even more, and should get a number of years on it again, before looking to upgrade. By that time there should be some better options out there for my needs! One last upgrade/addition to the system at this time! I finally pulled the trigger on getting some Bybee Golden Goddess SE speaker tails......although I don't think they call them Golden Goddess anymore! Too bad, because they certainly are golden! What a wonderful addition to the system. Last but certainly not least, I sold the Sakra from my source to the pre and replaced it with a Golden Oval XLR. The Sakra was RCA and the new Atma only accepts XLR, so the Sakra had to go. I was not about to spend the money they wanted for a new Sakra, so went with the Golden Oval instead......so far I'm liking it very much!

bullot

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System edited: Made a few changes. Stealth Sakra on course and pre to amps. Also added Isoclean Supreme Focus power cords on all components. Along with that I swapped out the Anthem Statement Processor for the Proceed AVP2......I really like the Anthem, but it was just way to deep technically to fully utilize.

bullot

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Good to hear from you Mark, hope you are doing well!! For the money, you need to do the fuses Mark. If you are able to do three at once, that would be really interesting! I think your amp will love it!! My Genesis amp probably had the original fuse in it, which apparently starts to oxidize, whereas the silver won't......for the money it's a no brainer, and please let me know how it works for you!

As for the Isoclean Supreme Focus! I think I'm done with power cables.......unless there is a paradigm shift in technology this is it! When starting on this cable journey, I initially went from the stock cable on my components to the Python Helix, and of course there was a very very nice improvement! So,a person thinks, well if I upgrade again and get that same hit, wow.......but it never happens! You spend lots of money and, ah yeah ok sure maybe a little better here or there, but all for a big cost! When I put one Supreme Focus in, as good as my upgrade after upgrade cables were, I got that hit again, a jump. I figure this must be it! Sure, it's possible there is something better out there, but it can't be much better, and it's going to be lots of cash and have to be new. The Supreme Focus on the used market are a decent price compared to anything new!

bullot

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C1ferrari, get the fuses!! Like I said, I paid $45 for the fuse, and have previously spent thousands that did not give me near the same impact/upgrade. In my system it was like going from a stock power cord on a component to a Shunyata Anaconda Helix!! Worth the cash(?)......you bet! One thing though, apparently there is a proper direction to put them in.......I have not experimented with that, must have got it right the first time! Supposedly some folks have noticed that if you put them in, in the wrong direction, it sounds pretty bad! So, if that happens flip them around! Hopefully with four per component that won't be too arduous! Good luck!

bullot

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System edited: I have recently changed all my power cords to Isoclean Supreme Focus, and feel my power cord search is over for good......nice feeling. I have also, on order, a Stealth Sakra for my source and am eagerly awaiting its arrival. One thing that I did do on the cheap, and it absolutely blew me away, was to change one fuse in my Genesis Servo amp to a high-end silver fuse.......price was $45 and the difference it made from top to bottom was amazing, seriously amazing!!

bullot

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Thanks Vito! Yes the Joule has more than enought gain. When I ordered the Joule I talked to Simon about designing it with an HT byepass, I think the cost was around $250. I ended up designing it without the byepass and use it like a separate volume control for the L and R speakers whether the HT is on or not! I actually prefer it that way as I can go right from the source to the Joule without going through the Anthem to the Joule. (This keeps the main L and R channel as clean and direct as possible)

Shane

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Hey there Mark! Always good to hear from you! Well, I think the only thing new audio wise are a couple of Isoclean Supreme Focus power cables, 20 amp for the power conditioner and 15 amp for the preamp.......they are very impressive, wouldn't mind a third! Other than that, think I'm on pause for a while, pause and enjoy. I actually have Steve of Gabriel Gold sending me their new Rapture R speaker cable and ic for a try out, that should be very intersting!

bullot

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Thank you very much Glen.....lots of overtime at work, and some great opportunities because of Audiogon and some good folks on here to help with advice, have gotten me here!

bullot

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I have definately considered the Joule amps, and talked to Simon about it, specifically the Rite of Passage. I am also looking at the BAT150SE which I see you have Sam. I know the Genesis were voiced with Audio Research gear, so I'm very interested to try tubes.....which way to go though!? Thanks for the feedback Sam!

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Hey there Mark, good to hear from you, hope you are having a great holiday season!! My surrounds are also on the rear wall, they are I believe a Danish speaker, "Jamo", very nice units for the money. Thanks for the compliments, yes, to me it sounds awesome! I'm not crazy about big big speakers, but, the Genesis are incredible and if I could find a smaller set that could do the same for less than the cost of a small home, I'd be interested! I'm thinking of trying a tube amp(s) in the future.....I like the Joule Marianne so much, it has me thinking!! Take care my man!

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