What a wonderful system, you are truly fortunate...cannot wait to see updated pics when you've got the new speakers finalized for position, burn-in, etc....this all must sound amazing!

zephyr24069 October 20, 2015 23:55

Wow...this room turned out beautifully! You must be very proud...I'm sure it sounds as good as it looks!!!

zephyr24069 March 20, 2015 13:02

Best of luck finishing the project well in the shortest possible time,...reno and new construction will kill you with anticipation as it never seems to end; trust me, I know what you are experiencing! Then there is the perpetual dust from new drywall work that keeps on coming for a while after any sizable project!

I found out in the move to this new home and with the last one that much of the latest drywall work (even from the best of contractors) seems to be of very good quality but always seems to require a special order (Lowe's, etc...) online of 'jumbo' outlet covers. You can see this (at least around this area) in all the new custom built homes; they do this great drywall work and everything looks great but when you go to change outlet covers (want new color, etc..) or add an outlet to the room, the stock Lutron/other covers available off the shelf are a quarter inch or slightly more short in terms of covering the wall nicely. A good reliable contractor explained to me that they never go with stock and always apply the larger outlets as it is near impossible to achieve perfection around outlets and switches (particular 2gang, 3gang, etc...) given the size of the boxes that go in-wall, room needed
to get in the opening, etc...

zephyr24069 January 12, 2015 08:20

Matt...best of luck with the finishing stages of the room. Contractors and schedules are a great frustration to say the least! I'm eager to hear about your experience with the Vicoustics treatments....WAF on traditional room treatments has been extremely low, comments like "horrible" describe to me the WAF view of my ideas to put things on ceilings, in corners, etc...again and I am looking very intently at the Vicoustics as they may be my salvation given their aesthetics and overall 'artistic value' in the room that may offset WAF veto power :-) !!!

zephyr24069 December 31, 2014 15:00

Wow...this is making great progress. I am very happy for you to see the progress towards your new room!!!

zephyr24069 December 17, 2014 11:10

Correct..they have gold or rhodium; Bybee v3 uses both in their new conditioner. I found each works well for specific types of gear. The gold is a bit warmer sounding. For my wall outlets thought I found the AFTERBURNER8 outlets (no fancy plating, just 100% pure and well done metallurgy and design) are the best I've heard (again, all IMHO)....

zephyr24069 December 08, 2014 08:15

You have one hell of great project going...please let us know how everything sounds when complete and you are able to finally power on the system. I think you will really like what the 2750s do for each circuit. They made one hell of a difference here! Don't forget to check out Avatar Acoustics' AFTERBURNER8 outlets; Darren will explain all that makes them special in detail if you can get him on the phone.....Enjoy!

zephyr24069 December 07, 2014 12:26

I'm not an electrician so I cannot comment on whether doubling-up is safe and/or advisable. It seems to me that having an EP2050 in the main panel covers this and ground filters in the subpanel inline for each circuit should get it done so to speak. The 2050 provides clean power via regeneration and surge suppression from the point the power enters the whole-house panel. In addition, most power conditioners in our racks seem to have surge suppression (my Bybee v3 has a J. Curl-designed surge suppression layer in it according to the literature), you may already have a plan to has 2 layers of surge suppression inherent in it....

zephyr24069 December 05, 2014 11:37

Matt: Apologies for the delay in responding as I just noticed your questions.....

I agree with the folks about that electricians would prefer not to work with 10-gauge but frankly, 3rd listening room in, I'll tell you I've tried the 'recommended' 12-gauge runs for 20-amp circuits as well as 10-gauge and with 2 rooms wired with 10-gauge instead of 12, I will tell you there is a difference that can be enjoyed especially in demanding passages. It could be my amp(s) and my gear over the years but the more headroom this equipment has, the better it likes it so I'm sticking with 10-gauge for 20-amp circuits. I also found an electrician who had wired other HT and 2-channel rooms who agreed with this practice and said everyone he'd wired appreciated the difference when it was all said and done.

The main panel in the latest house is a Cutler-Hammer monster with copper busbars. The sub-panel is a 12 circuit GE that I found that also has copper busbars and a very solid feeling bolt-in circuit breaker insert. I am very happy with this subpanel; I looked at a lot of boxes while looking for SquareD and others recommended here and for some reason, the only SquareDs I could easily lay my hands on at the local Home Depot or Lowes are the ones that don't have copper bus bars. I could have had a SquareD or Cutler-Hammer subpanel with copper busbars if I had waited but I would have missed the window when the electrician I wanted to utilize was readily available. The subpanel and main panel are tied together using massive 6-gauge conduit as side note.....

If you have surge suppression already on your main panel, you should not (IMHO) install a 2nd device that also serves that function unless you remove the first and put in the Environmental Potentials to get both Surge Suppression and Wave Form correction (I would....). The EP unit's regenerative effects could be heard and seen throughout the house as my UHD-4K LED panel proved; as soon as the house came back online, the video was markedly improved and my audio system sounded better (more black backgrounds, etc...), even better after a couple of weeks of breaking in the new conduit in the walls.

Regardless whether you put the in the EP Waveform+Surge Protect unit in the main panel I would recommend you should definitely put one EP ground filter on each of your dedicated circuits. The effect of these in my system is readily noticed from first power-up and ever since. They are remarkable little devices and for about $175 are probably one of those outstanding values in audio that I'll never live without again.

Outlets (after many years of expense, trial and error with several other SOTA outlets) are Avatar Audio's AFTERBURNER8 outlets. Darren has real credentials in metallurgical sciences, engineering and is a die hard audiophile. These outlets amazed me and again, this is one of those things I won't be living without in my system. They worked wonders even over and above my favorites that I'd had in my system (Oyaide R1s cryo’ed) for several years after trying many others....

I have tried both separating my digital gear, analog gear and amps and various combinations as well as having them all on the same circuit. If you are going to spread across 2 or more dedicated circuits, it's absolutely essential that you have perfect and equal ground reference on all of them. Believe it or not, my best results have been (to-date, this could change) with all my gear seeing the same ground reference through the use of a single dedicated circuit with the EP filters and WaveForm correction installed all running into a Bybee Stealth 3.0 unit and tied together (ground-ref) with a Granite Audio Ground Zero star-grounding scheme.

I'm still experimenting and will continue to do so, but this is where I'm at to-date on all of this; very happy with the current state of things and looking forward to a lot more great listening.

Let me know how else I can help…”Obsessed Again”…definitely can relate!

zephyr24069 December 02, 2014 10:56

You have one hell of a great project and room going there; welcome back! Please check out my posts on my system thread and elsewhere viz. power conditioning with the Bybee v3.0 and Environmental Potentials Line Regeneration and Ground Filter modules (all separate products) and power cord journeys and results with Elrod's latest generation of products. Happy Listening! That is going to be a beautiful room....

zephyr24069 November 10, 2014 10:56