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This mass coupled, multi arm table, will be a useful tool into the foray of analogue. Hopefully, it will be the last table I'll need.

More photos will be posted over the next 2 months as the project is compleated.
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    • DIY MK 1
    In May of 2006 I thought it might be fun to try and build, rather than buy, a turntable. The concept was as follows; Triangular plinth to accommodate 3 arms, each designed along different mechanical principles. Suspension, Pointed rather than sprung, with mechanical grounding of all components via large brass tiptoes. A platter using vacuum hold down rather than a center weight and ring clamp. Belt drive via 3 multi motor pods. Use of an epoxy/ lead matrix, where ever possible, to help dampen resonances. Implementation of an anti vibration device such as produced by Halcyonics, Vibraplane or Minus K Technologies. Last of all, build a dedicated, welded, tubular steel stand that would be filled with a lead shot / elastomeric material to reduce resonances. This stand would house the table, 3 electronic motor speed controllers, 3 phono head amps for 3 moving coil cartridges, and a high quality stereo pre amp to act as a switching device among the 3 cartridges. The pre amp would need balanced outputs so that I could locate the table anywhere within the listening room. The table is about 2 months from completion. The above photo, taken just before Christmas, shows most, but not all the design elements in place. This photo essay, along with brief descriptions of each step, may be of interest to anyone who ever deliberated the merits of the various table designs out there before making a final choice.
    • DIY MK 1 Plinth Pattern
    Since the triangular pedestal is the heart of the table, a pattern will be required in order to laminate the fiberglass mold into which the epoxy matrix will be poured. Shown is the MDF sheets being glued together from which the pattern will be fabricated. The dimensional stability and easy machinability of MDF makes this the material of choice. Note the table bearing well machined into the top 3 layers of MDF prior to gluing up step. The well side walls are tapered with a 3 % angle in order to facilitate demolding of the final part from the fiberglass mold.
    • DIY MK 1 Pattern Cut
    The pattern shown includes 3
    • DIY MK 1 Texture Added
    The accurate final assembly of the pods to the center pattern is accomplished by using biscuit joints and polyurethane glue. The black panels shown are the surfaces that have been laminated with slate textured, high pressure laminate.The remaining surfaces will be high gloss black. The contrast will not only be more attractive, but offer a more dimensional surface on which to mount the arms and levelers
    • DIY MK 1 Pattern Glue Up
    Assembly of the 4 pattern pieces requires tight, accurate clamping. The irregular shape means typical clamps may not fit the bill. A band clamp on the bottom and pinch dogs on the top keep the parts from shifting when the pressure is applied.
    • DIY MK 1 Pattern Coating Applied
    After the clamps are removed, a decorative chamfer is machined around the top perimeter of the pattern. After the slate surfaces are masked, the pattern is sprayed with a polyester pattern coating. When the coating cures, the pattern can be sanded and polished prior to the production of the fiberglass mold.
    • DIY MK 1 Lets Start Building A Mold
    The finished pattern is mounted to a mold plate, prepared with multiple coats of mold release wax, then sprayed with a poly vinyl alcohol film forming barrier coat. The dry PVA film can be compared to sheet of saran wrap that will prevent any bond between the pattern an the mold surface about to be applied over the pattern.
    • DIY MK 1 Surface Coat Applied First
    Shown is the application of the metal filled surface being sprayed over the pattern. The surface coat will generate a mirror of surface of the pattern that will become the performance surface of the production mold. This surface coat is a 2 part, catalyzed material, as compared to an air dry, solvent based paint. Once cured, it will be impervious to the chemical attack generated when the final production pedestal is cast.
    • DIY MK 1 Fiberglass Comes Next
    Laminating fiberglass re-enforcemint will add strength and bulk to the thin layer of surface coat that has been sprayed over the pattern. Multiple layers, that add up to 1/4 inch in thickness, will be required before we can proceed to the next step. The dark areas around the corners and edges come from the paste made from ground glass, calcium carbonate and cotton flock that was brushed on prior to the first layer of fiberglass. It will eliminate any small air pockets that may result from the difficulty in getting stiff glass fibers to conform to sharp inside and outside corners.
    • DIY MK 1 Rigidize The Laminate
    Even though a 1'4 inch laminate of fiberglass has a great degree of strength, it must have a substrate of some thickness to maintain rigidity and dimensional stability. Panels of MDF are bonded to the flat surfaces in order to accomplish the desired result. Another layer of fiberglass will go over the MDF panels to effect a sandwich type of construction that will guarantee dimensional stability for years to come. A box will then be bonded to the back of the laminate to facilitate easy handling.
    • DIY MK 1 Showtime!
    It's time to demold the pattern from the fiberglass mold. Shown at the top of the picture is the light gray pattern, with the darker gray fiberglass mold in the lower part of the picture.
    • DIY MK 1 Making The Plinth
    A few days later the mold has been sanded, polished and waxed. It's now ready to produce a final part. It will take some engineering to determine the size and shape of the aluminum plinth, along with the arm boards needed to accommodate the various tone arms and leveling vials. Because of these factors, it would be a good idea to laminate a trial horse off the mold to be used for experimentation. This photo shows the trial lamination, in black at the right, being demolded from the production mold,at the left, in light gray. This part is just a 1/4 inch thick fiberglass shell without any additional re-enforcement.
    • DIY MK 1 Trim Out Time
    Trimming out a fiberglass part is never a fun job, but it doesn't take that long and it only itches for a little while.
    • DIY MK 1 The Finished Plinth
    With 2000 grit sandpaper and a little polishing , and it's as shiny as new money.
    • DIY MK 1 Plinth Plate
    A mock up of the aluminum plinth plate, done in MDF makes it easy and inexpensive to work out the details before machining it in Aluminum.
    • DIY MK 1 Plinth Plate Mock Up
    Angles and measurements are accurately transferred to the MDF pattern, then cut to size.
    • DIY MK 1 Progress Check.
    With the vacuum platter on top, and the plinth plate on the bottom, things are taking shape. A few changes are made on the thickness and overall dimensions of the plinth plate, in order to maintain good proportions, and it's time for the next step.
    • DIY MK 1 Tip Toe Check
    Tip toes are mocked up in steel. Final parts to be in brass, but a thinner jam nut in brass is a must.
    • Dynavector DV 507 MK 11
    A Dynavector DV 507 MK II is shown ,sans head shell and counter weight, positioned on the first of three pods that each will accept a different type of tone arm.
    • Kuzma Air Line
    The Kuzma Air Line, to be mounted at the rear of the pedestal, will make an impressive contribution, not only to the performance but to the overall looks of the project.
    • Tri Plainer Mk V11
    My intention in choosing arms was to utilize 3 very different arm types.The Tri Plainer Mk VII, mounted on the third pod of the table, will complement the other 2 choices.
    • VPI Industries HRX Drive
    The drive unit of choice is the VPI HRX twin motor drive. Utilizing a 15 lb stainless steel flywheel, the added mass will go a long way to maximize the speed stability of the table.
    • VPI Industries SDS Controller
    The VPI SDS electronic controller was the natural choice for the HRX motor drive. 3 separate SDS controllers will power the 3 HRX motor drive units powering the platter.
    • DIY MK 1 Final Dimension Check
    Shown is the pedestal with the plinth, platter and all 3 arms positioned correctly with respect to
    • DIY MK 1 CNC Time
    The dimensions and angles of the mdf mock up of the plinth plate are transferred to a CNC machining center where the a 1- 1/2 inch thick aluminum slab is cut to the same dimensions, and the 1-1/2 fine threads are tapped to accept the tip toes.
    • DIY MK 1 Arm boards next
    A 3/4 inch thick aluminum arm board will be used to mount the various arms to the top of the pedestal. Note the inset vial level that will be used to continuously monitor the levelness of the table. A mock up tells me if my dimensions are correct before I proceed in aluminum.
    • DIY MK 1 Aluminum Arm Board
    The arm boards have been cut from 3/4 inch aluminum and the underside cored out removing almost 50 % of the aluminum. This cored area will then be filled in with a lead shot/ urethane elastomeric matrix that will dampen the resonance that might occur in a solid aluminum arm board.
    • DIY MK 1 Final Machining- Arm Board
    Additional machining on the top side includes a hole to access the top of the tip toe. Here a long T handle allen wrench can be inserted, fitting into the top of the tip toe, for easy adjustment of the pedestal height.
    • DIY MK 1 Arm Boards, Final Location
    Accurate location of the 4 mounting holes for the arm boards in the top of the plinth are laid out, along with the other holes for the arm cables, tip toe adjustment holes etc.
    • DIY MK 1 Secondary Fittings Installed
    Aluminum bars to accept the 10-32 threads for mounting of the arm boards , along with various pvc fittings to act as conduits for arm cables and tip toe adjustment, are epoxied in place.
    • DIY MK 1 Aluminum Motor Bases
    2 inch thick aluminum billet has been machined out to act as a bases for each of the 3 drive units. The drive units will be firmly bolted to these bases with a thin sheet of Isodamp in between for good contact. The chamfered edge has been maintained for continuity of the overall appearance of the unit.
    • DIY MK 1 Motor Bases- Underside
    As with the aluminum arm boards, the underside of the motor bases has been heavily cored out. This will then be filled with the same lead/ elastomeric matrix as used in the arm board. 3 holes are visible for the 1-1/2 dia threaded tip toes that will level and mechanically ground each motor drive unit.
    • DIY MK 1 Threads And Holes
    Threads for mounting the arm boards are tapped into the pedestal prior to it being filled with an epoxy / lead matrix. The holes for the signal cables and tip toe access are also drilled.
    • DIY MK 1 Final Plinth Polishing
    Final 2000 grit sanding and polishing of the plinth is done now. The next step will be to cast approximately 240 lbs of lead and epoxy fill into the underside. After that step it will be too heavy to handle for anything other than the final mounting on the aluminum plinth.

Comments 73

Owner
Hi Darren,

The CES was great. I didn't set a foot in the Zoo, and probably missed nothing.

I met Albert Porter on the second day and it was fun from 9 AM until 10 PM. I never thought I'd enjoy myself as much as I did, so I extended the trip by 1 day. The hotel and airline both ate my buttttttttt , however it was worth it.

I ordered 2 more Krell KPE reference phono amps, so I now have one for each of the 3 cartridges. What can I say, I'm a solid state guy. I purchased a Krell KCT pre amp to use as a switcher among the 3 cartridges on the table I'm building. The table is 35 feet from the processor , so I needed a source to send a balanced signal to my HTS 7.1 processor.When I get the 707 with CAST connections I can send a cast signal from the turntable to the processor. I just wish I had the option to use cast throughout the whole system, but I haven't found a money tree yet.

I was hoping to see the Krell 707 Processor being released soon, but it will be around June. It is as big as a FPB 600 and will be more expensive than previously thought, thank God I have no kids in college.

My turntable project is progressing as best as can be expected. I hope it will be done around the end of Feb. As promised, I will send You a ticket to hear it when it is done.

Your friend, Ken

kftool

Ken,

How was CES. Did you settle on any new phono stage? Curious as to how you are doing?

dgad

Owner
Sogood51

Dave,

Thanks, It seems as though I need some type of project to keep my blood preassure up. When the table is done I'll need to finish the listening room I started 15 years ago. Only the sound treatment and woodwork are left before it will be compleat. Then I guess I'll need another project.

Ken

kftool

Owner
Thomasheisig,

Tom,

I have a shelter 90x, a My Sonic Labs Eminent, and a Koetsu Platinum Signature Jade. It will be interesting to switch among all 3 cartridges while they're all in the same groove.

I noticed you have the Odyssey Mk 5 rcm. I saw it at the CES and it was gorgeous. How and where did you order your custom version, direct from Germany?

kftool

Owner
Slipknot1
Joe,
At the moment, it is weighing in at around 680 lbs. My weight limit is 700 lbs which is the capacity of the largest stock Minus K platform available. That gives me 20 lbs to use to ballast the table out for maximum performance on the Minus K. The vibration platform weighs 80 lbs and the plate it rests on weighs 110 lbs. I'm guessing the stand I'll build for it to come in at around 220 lbs, so the whole thing will be around 1100 lbs. It's good my room is on a 10 inch slab.

Whoops, I forgot the weight of the cartridges, add another 29 grams.

thanks, Ken

kftool

Owner
Albert,

The pleasure was all mine. It was certainly recognizable how just about everyone at the many high end audio rooms we visited seemed to know Albert Porter on a first name basis. You've built yourself quite a reputation in the industry.

Your choice of good food is also acute, as I plan to take Sue out for a dinner at our local " Indian Food" hot spot.

regards, Ken

kftool

WOW!...very nice Ken. None of your projects are small (HeHe)...I love it.

Dave

sogood51

Very, very interesting Turntable. Keep us updated about your listening impressions. What cartridges you are going to use?

thomasheisig

Ken-
how much does that beauty weigh?

slipknot1

Ken,

It was great meeting you at CES. I'm looking forward to a full report on your turntable project.

albertporter

Owner
Somut,

It took me many years to develop Endurance and patience, to whatever degree I possess them. I feel that when a person can settle down and realize that long term goals are the most satisfying to reach, time doesn't seem to matter as much, as long as there is enough time to reach that goal.

thanks, Ken

kftool

Owner
Slipknot1,

Joe, this project has taken longer than I planned, the novel appearance of the table has kept my ambition up. I've all but stopped thinking about the arm- cartridge match ups, to say nothing about the differences in the sounds of the 3 cartridges when they're all on the record at the same time.

For the last month or so I've been playing records on my old Sota Star- Benz glider table and everything I play sounds better than I expected, except for the bottom end. I think I could turn the subs off without noticing any difference.

Joe, thanks for your kind comments, as a Walker table owner, you're accustomed to top notch gear.

Ken

kftool

Hello:

Strong commendations for your endurance, patience, and what looks like impeccable standards of craftsmanship. Perhaps your engineering marvel exemplifies American ingenuity and innovation. In the name of the Arts and Sciences, extraordinary workmanship Ken!

somut

My word Ken-
That thing is gorgeous! Three world class arms and carts too!

Talk about getting into analogue with a vengeance...

Congratulations!

Joe

slipknot1

Owner
Albert,
I'm flattered that you asked about making it available to others. I was asked that same question 2 weeks ago by someone within the audio industry and I passed it off as just lip service, but who knows. The second one of anything is almost always easier than the first, and cheaper too.

And yes, it was a bunch of work. I usually keep a good cost and time record of my projects, but not this one. It started out to be an easy 3 month project, that was 6 months ago. These things seem to grow legs of their own.

Regarding the looks; I'm crating all the aluminum now to be sent out to be brushed and anodized. All the brass tiptoes and cups should be done in a few weeks, I'm getting anxious. I'll post another set of photos then.

Albert,thanks for your reply.
Ken

kftool

Good grief! What a bunch of work, and it's absolutely stunning !

Are you going to make this beautiful turntable project available for others or is it too labor intensive?

albertporter

Owner
Chadnliz'

New friends are always welcome, especially those with vinyl.
Cheers, Ken

kftool

Wow that is amazing, seeing projects like yours puts a smile on my face.....P.S. Do you need a new friend? :)

chadnliz

Owner
Steve.

I appreciate your comment, it is especially meaningful coming from someone who'se system has as many great tables as yours.

I noticed the remark on your virtual systems posting regarding you hearing a K horn in '77 that started you on your way, they sure were great. I heard my first K horn type, an Electro Voice Patrician, in 1956. I heard them at Audio Engineers in Milwaukee. They had a promotion ; Buy one at $999. , and get the second for 1 PENNY. I was in high school then, so it took me 3 years to build them from scratch , getting all the drivers from Olson Electronics at 20 % off. I still have all the drivers but had to pitch the cabinets 20 years ago when I finally retired them. I'm sure you'll never forget the impact they delivered, and they took almost no power to bleed your ears!

" I hope to have this project done in 2 months." You mentioned doing all the work on your sound room yourself , so you know how much credibility can be put in the target date of a DIY project.

Thanks for the reply, and I hope you'll check back as I post more pix as the project NNNNNNNEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRSSSSSSS compleation.

Ken

kftool



Very nice Ken. You have raised the bar several notches!
Keep us posted as to the sound. You desreve to be very proud.

Steve

vetterone

Owner
Francesco,

Thanks for your kind response. It has been fun from the start, so much so that I'm not sure I want the project to end.

I guess I can always play with different cartridges to keep the game going, or maybe just play records and enjoy the music. Happy New year to you.

Ken

kftool

Ken,

you diy turntable is simply a masterpiece!!! Many compliments to you!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR with your new turntable.

Francesco

gryfon762

Owner
Your comments,questions, and criticisms are welcome.

Ken

kftool

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