Hello Jeff. Just noticed your post on the new B&W speakers. I agree with you. My complements on your set up. A beautiful place to get lost in the music. Cheers. Pete
Great to hear that it worked out for you. I am sure that it sounds just fantastic. So it is safe to say that you have very little regret going with the Denon Pre? I have seen that around and it does look like a serious piece of gear. Congrats on getting what you hoped for.
Setup wasn't a problem, between the ARO software on the subs and the Audyssey EQ on the Denon AVP. I haven't heard any phase issues so far.
My two channel material is spread to all seven speakers using THX's surround music algorithms. The effect is subtle enough that I rarely notice the speakers on the sides or behind me (some occasional albums have an issue here or there); the rewards far outweigh the disadvantages, because the surround algorithm completely fills out the entire soundstage more so than two channel alone ever could.
I'm extremely happy right now. My current setup has exceeded my previous expectations. I was just hoping to lessen the remaining room anomalies that were coloring the sound and instead the anomalies have been basically eliminated completely... Finally. :D
Wow. seven Salon's and 4 113's. That really must sound incredible. Was it a pain to get the crossovers, delay times and phase adjustment? Looking forward to seeing the pictures.
I set up all seven Salon2s and the four Fathom F113s and the sound is earthshaking. A very satisfying, deeply visceral sound. I can feel the bass notes resonating in my chest cavity and everywhere else!
I set the subs up in the positions recommended for optimal low frequency extension. Two side by side in the middle of the front wall and two side by side in the middle of the back wall.
I might even have to add two or four more Salon2s to complete the entire design (one pair for each row of seats for a total of 9 or 11 speakers depending on if I do two or three rows).
Wow. You are so thorough. I am so impressed. How about a sub under each seat? ;-) (just kidding)
Got you on the subs. I just know that some people like the "cool" factor of the Gotham. Too bad about the room. I know you put a lot of time and effort and cash into this room. Hopefully, the lessons learned here can make the transition an easy one.
We are moving, so I won't have this room much longer. The good news is, I might be building a new room 100% from scratch in the new place. This time it will be exclusively a Home Theater setup and two channel material will have the ambient sound extracted to fill the surround channels. I was heading in the "ambient sound extraction" direction anyway in this room, but since we have decided to move I can now make the room perfect for that intention.
I might even have to add two or four more Salon2s to complete the entire design (one pair for each row of seats for a total of 9 or 11 speakers depending on if I do two or three rows).
Putting two F113s right next to each other would have the same effect as one Gotham, it is just a matter of horizontal vs vertical alignment. So, by placing two Fathom 113s next to each other, I get the same effect at almost half the price... ;)
Sorry to hear about the speakers. I have seen that Denon around. It looks fantastic. The fathoms should be a nice addition. I have never heard them though(I have a Seaton Sound Submersive1). 4 should be quite nice. Any reason you choose the 4 113's as opposed to going the Gotham route. Placement issues?
The speakers arrived but were damaged during shipping, so I am waiting for replacements now. The new Bryston amps for those speakers are here, but I haven't used them yet.
The replacement Stewartscreen arrived also, and I installed it already. The Acoustic Transparency works completely transparently as far as I can tell. It is nice to be able to use the matching center channel. It sounds great!
I also have other updates in the works. I am getting a Denon AVP for my preprocessor unit and I am replacing my two Revel Sub30s with four JL Audio Fathom F113s. The last thing I plan to update is the Denon DVD-5910 universal player when their new universal player is released (the one with Blu-Ray in it as well).
Any time line on the other pair of Salons and the Brystons. Sorry to hear about the issue with your projector. I hope you can work out the problem without too much more of a headache :(.
The tri state area sales rep for Sim2 calls on me for James Loudspeakers and other products. Previous to Sim he was the rep for Runco for 8 years. If you like I could ask for his advice? Tom
That would be a hell of a lot better than buying a projector and never having one that works correctly IMO. I don't care how cutting edge a company is, if they can't get me a working product or back up their own warranty, then they aren't a good company.
I'm still waiting to see what Sim2 is going to do. I will do everything I can to avoid a lawsuit (contact higher ups in the company before proceeding, etc), but I will do what I have to do, and I would certainly sue for legal fees and duress as well... This has caused me a TREMENDOUS amount of stress. :(
Runco has trouble even providing parts for a 2 year old projector that they had 99% 0 build influence on from the get go. Very much a tweak shop that buys a whole lot of advertising and marketing and a 40 point markup for their dealers. They don't make anything its farmed out. Tom
I actually have a few things wrong with my Sim2 C3X 1080 unit and Sim2 are saying they don't see it... One of which is a whole white bar missing from the zoom screen (I have pictures). It doesn't happen with every screen position the projector is in, but it does happen when you mount it upside down and set the screen to display right side up. So when the projector is upside down and it is playing things as right side up, part of the viewing screen is missing. Then there is also an issue with the red pixels being more than a pixel off on the left side of the screen in that same mounting position (also have pictures). This is the second bad projector I have gotten from them, and it appears that they are trying to weasel out of honoring their warranty. I hope I am wrong.
When the consumer market gets bad, you really get to see which companies follow a code of ethics and which follow the almighty dollar. I certainly hope they stand behind their warranty and I don't have to pursue this legally... But I certainly will.
It has been months since I have had a properly working projector. At the price point of these projectors and with their short shelf lives before they become outdated nowadays, I have missed out on the premium portion of my investment... At this point I wish I hadn't been persuaded to buy one of these and went with the Runco instead.
I got you. That's cool. With a sensitivity of 86.4 I am sure those speakers take every thing the Ayre can dish out. I am sure they would love that Bryston.
