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I've had this system together for about a week now.

A couple of things I've learned:

1.) The importance of speaker placement...I spent about 4 hours setting up the speakers and the soundstage is finally a soundstage. It's so great to close your eyes and feel like she's singing right in front of you.

2.) I like sweetness. This system is more detailed than my NAD/B&W combo, but there is a sweetness to the sound that keeps me glued to my sofa.

3.) I like Birdland...I used my Etymotic ER-4S headphones to listen to my gear with and without the Birdland made, and the differences were quite noticeable. Grain was almost entirely eliminated.

4.) I love Green Mountain Audio. I haven't even broken these speakers in, but they are categorically better than my B&W 602 S3s. **take the prior statement w/a grain of salt as I changed more than just my speakers in my system, so it's difficult to attribute causality to the Europas** I will say that the resolution of the Europas at low volumes is entrancing, and the vocals...oh the vocals!

Where would you go from here? I'm not sure I'll upgrade anytime soon, but if I were to, my budget is around 1.5k. I can't decide if I should change the source or the amp.

Thanks again 'gon. I'm loving this system!
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    • NAD T562
    HDCD/DVD player
    • Belles 150
    Sweet sounding amp. 75x2 into 8 ohms. 125 into 4 ohms.
    • Birdland Audio Odeon Lite
    This has really helped with the graininess of the NAD.
    • Green Mountain Audio Europa
    I've had it for less than a week and I'm already in love! Way better in my system than my B&W 602 S3s.
    • Audio Magic Excalibur II
    Silver. 8 foot long pair.

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Zilla,
I am using the Audio Magic Sorcerer digital coax. Works great! I want to upgrade my IC's to Sorcerer or even Illusions.
No power conditioner, first dedicated lines but the money now I think has to go for an amp. The Audio points have been too revealing of the Nad's character. I would say that they "tighten up" the sound. Hard to describe. I only have them under the Dac and between the speakers and stands. I think the sorbothane blurred the sound and posed a phony "bloom" of sorts. Now the Nad is clean, powerful and even more boring than it was before. Funny, I too thought the system was starting to sound pretty good.
So, a new amp. I'm thinking to try tubes for the first time as well. Oh, if you have young kids that may bump your speakers, forget the cones there. They do make the speakers tippy! No problem here.
And so it goes. Scott

abbeydog

Dubzilla,
Sorry I see you don't use the Nad C370 (good for you). Curious, do you have good stands now for the Europas?
I have recieved the Audio Points and am currently evaluating them. If you haven't tried the Audio Magic IC's yet, I would say go. An immediate improvement over the Signal stuff I was using.
OOOOOOOOOOOhhh, I think I need a new amp!!!!!!!!!
Scott

abbeydog

Zilla,
Are you using the Birdland dac direct (bypassing the pre in the C370)? I found there to be simply no comparison between the two options.
You will definitely pick up bass response after 100-200 hours on the Europas. Good stands are a must. They will improve your bass response and give the midrange percussives more impact (guitar plucks etc.) Even replacing the old outlets with hospital grade Hubbels has helped.
All little things, a little at a time.
Scott

abbeydog