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Room Details

Dimensions: 26’ × 17’  Large
Ceiling: 8’


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    • LUMIN X1
    Very impressed, especially with the Leedh volume control. No preamp needed.
    • Clarisys Minuet
    Just installed on 8-29-23. replaced my beloved Focal Sopra 2's.
    • Rotel Michi 8
    Just added these 140 lb. amps. Rated for 1800 watts per 4 ohm.
    • JL Audio F-113 Subwoofers (4) of them.
    4 F-113's
    • AudioQuest Cables Mythical Creatures Cables Complete Loom
    Niagara 7000, (2) 1200, 1000 Power conditioners. On my 3 dedicated lines for a total of 4 AudioQuest units. I have (2)1200 for my JL subs. 2 are in the back of the room and 2 in the front. 

    3 AudioQuest Dragon Power cords.

    Interconnects - Thunderbird XLR 
    Speaker Cables -Thunderbird speaker cables Zero & Bass
    • AudioQuest 7000, (2) 1200, 1000 Power Conditioners 7000
    • AudioQuest Dragon High Current 20A for My Niagara 7000 & Dragon Source
    Using this power cord on my AudioQuest Niagara 7000 power conditioner. Quite impressive!
    Added another Dragon Source to my Lumin X1
    • ADD-POWR Sorcer X4
    Great conditioner!
    • Critical Mass Systems Center Stage CM2,2M in both the 1.0 & 1.5 size footers. Total of 6 sets being used.
    I now have 6 sets under my equipment and boy are they impressive.
    • Entreq Silver Tellus
    Silver Tellus used om my digital. Plus a DIY large box used on analog and two smaller DIY boxes used on each speaker.
    • EtherRegen Uptone Audio
    • AfterDark Queen Clock and Linear power supply
    Combo
    • WireWorld Platinum 8 Ethernet
    I didn't think an ethernet cable would improve the sound much, but with cable connected to my Ether Regen input from my modem even though I am sending the output via fiber to my Lumin X1, increased the sound quality presence. Quite impressive.

Comments 195

Owner
System edited: Just added HIDiamond Interconnects,Digital and Power cables.

ozzy

Owner
Wig, About every 3 months.

ozzy

Ozzy,

How often do you condition your cables with the Audiodharma?

wig

Ozzy: Yes, we did. I received the Morrow Dig4 over a week ago, also with the silver Eichmans and 5 day burn in. I haven't been able to evaluate it because my computer won't download the proper driver for the usb/spdif interface that's plugged into it. Now I have to return the interface and get one that doesn't require a download. I hate this crap.

devilboy

Owner
Devilboy, I believe we have communicated, but if not I apologize. Yes the Morrow cable I am using is the Dig 4, in my opinion it is way better than the Kimber D-60 in all the areas that matter. Better sound staging, sound quality, frequency extremes etc. But I did pay extra to include the Silver Eichmann rca's.
The Have/Canare is a very good cable for the money and as soon as I get my Cable Cooker, I'm going to give it a try again.

ozzy

Ozzy: I posted some questions in one of your previous threads that has been dormant for some time so I'll ask here as well. It's regarding digital cables. I'm in the market for a digital RCA to RCA cable. I see you like the Morrow cable. Is it Dig1 or Dig4? Also, it apparently beat out your Kimber Illuminati D-60. What about the Have/Canare? How does it compare to your reference digital cable?

devilboy

That is what I figured. It looks kool....very Madmenish if you are familiar with that show.

agear

Owner
It's just for show, I don't actually drink any of it.
Well, maybe a little during holidays..

ozzy

Nice system. The key "tweak" is obviously depicted in pic #5....lol.

agear

Owner
Highend64, Just about every day.
There still is a slight edge in Audio Quality playing CD's through my Cary 306 SACD over playing the Touch with digital out to the Cary. But, it is very close and so much more fun. Its great to pick a whole bunch of tunes to play anytime without having to get up to change discs.

ozzy

Hi Ozzy, nice system. How often do you use the squeezebox touch?

highend64

Owner
System edited: New pictures and discription. DIY speaker cables are Wwaayyy better than any of the high priced speaker cables that I tried in the past!

ozzy

Owner
Desalvo55, yes I do have a Oppo BDP 95. But I use it mostly in my Home theater set up. However,I did try a few SACD's and Cd's. But I still prefer my Cary 306 SACD player with those formats.

ozzy

Ozzy, I understand that you picked up an Oppo BDP-95. If that's true how is it working for you?

Just sold my PS Audio Perfectwave gear. I've got a hot-rodded BDP-83SE which sounds pretty good, but I want better. Thinking about the 95 and possibly a mod to go along with it. I like the idea of attaching my music library to thee Oppo as well as playing my SACD's and as a bonus, 3D TV when the mood arises.

desalvo55

Owner
Perhaps RFI is a factor, I don’t really know. But the Walkers are supposed to deal with that.
No matter, the end result is still that the sound quality is better than when I used the other $$$ cables.

If I was to use the factor of 10 that many cable builders use, my home made versions would sell for $5000 retail (not counting the Walkers and the Ground Controls).

I still believe that the actual wire conductor itself is the most important element in speaker cables. All the other cable manufacturer claims are just so much BS.

ozzy

Ozzy, when I had Beauhorn Virtuosos, I wired them with no Teflon insulation. I just kept the leads far apart. Later with the Muratas, I initially used Teflon tubing on one lead. Later I took it off. The Teflon on one lead ruined the sound. Old homes used uninsulated wires for ac with both leads wrapped around ceramic insulators. I have often thought of doing that but RFI is so great today, I doubt if it would be any good.

tbg

Owner
Desalvo55, I realy didn't know what to expect, I was afraid it would be hard sounding and tilted towards the treble. Surprisingly the sound was very smooth, yet detailed but in no way harsh even with very little break in. I sold my Synergistic cables and bought other things. I still have my SR Power cables though.

I think I read somewhere that the dielectic is what takes forever to break in. With my DIY cables there is no dielectic. But, if I was doing it over again , I would perhaps use an even larger gauge teflon tubing to allow for more air around the conductor. I dont know if it would make a difference in the sound however.

Kwa69, Yes, you will need a 14 gauge for both + and -.
Bare wire is probably the best way to go, plus you will save quite a bit by not buying the Goertz spades.

The Ground Controls and the Walkers add to the cost, but I also had them when I used the Synergistic Apex speaker cables. They they dont look like much for what they cost, but they will make your speakers come alive!

ozzy

Thanks Ozzy going to look in to it. So I need a 14 gauge for the + and one for the - and connectors what about bare wire dont know anything about Ground Controls and the Walker Ref + your speaker wire looks massive like 7 gauge with a clear jacket i am probably going to try to make it myself hope it sounds better than my audioquest thanks again Ozzy very nice system

kwa69

I've purchased wire from ebay just as you had. I was looking for a different type of wire, a different recipe. The wire I'm using is gold over brass. The wire I was looking for was gold over silver. Unobtainable in the states. I even tried to get companies to make this stuff for me.

This recipe comes from a fellow Audiogoner named Jadem6. Thanks Jadem.

So I settled for a hard annealed 18awg (mistake with hard annealed I think as I didn't know any better) for ground and 3 runs of 28awg for the signal. No twists, layed over 3/4 inch cotton piping + and - opposite sides of the piping and run in cotton sleeve - no dialectric really other than - cotton. Thes terminated into some very high end Furutech connectors, rhodium, locking, don't recall the model number. They work VERY WELL!

Thanks for the tip Ozzy! I'll be making a set to compete with my Tesla's.

desalvo55

Owner
I found the wire on EBay.
Just do a search for solid core 9999 Silver wire, then look for 14 gauge.
There are several sellers, most have listed only a few feet of it for sale.I sent a message asking for a 50 foot length.
They were more than happy to provide it. I think it went for about $7 a foot.
I believe the seller on Ebay that I purchased it from was
online2deal mention my name, perhaps it will help.

Make sure it is soft annealed, it should be able to bend easily almost like solder. The soft annealed makes a big difference in sound quality.

The Goertz connectors can be found at Goertz Website and use a good Silver Solder.
The 12 gauge teflon tubing was bought from Handmade Electronics.

I ran the conductors in opposite directions for the + and -.
I then twisted them about 3 twists per foot.

The Ground Controls can be bought from Music Direct.

I also added the Walker HDL Ref + these were a liitle pricey but added a great calmness to the music.

All in all the final product sounds way better than any Speaker cable I have or have owned or tried. And, I have tried some very $$$ cables including the Synergistic Apex. Purist Audio Dominus, Virtual Dynamics Rev 2 and Nordost Valhalla.

Hope this helps!
ozzy

by Ozzy

ozzy

I'd be curios as well regarding your DIY speaker cables. I built my own interconnects using Jadems 6 recipe. Not only did his "science" make sense, the cables I built are great.

desalvo55

Ozzy very nice system love the pass gear. I saw your post onthe the cable forum and would appreciate little more details on the process of making your speaker wire's. I like silver rca's never thought about silver speaker wire im very intrigued appreciate any advice you can give me again nice system ozzy.

kwa69

Ozzy, Any plans for your big $$$ Synergistic power cables? Are you going to keep them or replace with something superior and less $$$?

knghifi

Owner
DIY 14 gauge Solid core 9999 Silver cable.

After spending many $$$ on Speaker cables, I have found that the actual conductor is what matters.

ozzy

Ozzy you left us hanging...what cables are you using now?

lapierre

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